Portable Hole is a way to place a Hole in your ZODB from one point to another. Or to a place to stick objects from another part of your ZODB into. There are only two restrictions. When using point to point mode, the source must be Folderish. A Portable Hole must not be able acquire itself. Doing so will cause your universe to collapse. Well actually it checks for this, since Portable Holes have a strong sense of self preservation, and will not allow itself to be created in such a manner. You can read more about and download Portable Holes here; http://www.zope.org/Members/TheJester/PortableHoles/ -- Totally Holistic Enterprises Internet| | Andrew Milton The Internet (Aust) Pty Ltd | | ACN: 082 081 472 ABN: 83 082 081 472 | M:+61 416 022 411 | Carpe Daemon PO Box 837 Indooroopilly QLD 4068 |akm@theinternet.com.au|