Hi, I have a problem with the standard item traverser provided by zope.app.container: The item traverser looks up a object using the given name and a __getitem__ call on the context. If this raises a KeyError it tries to look up a view given the same name. If the user does not have the permission to access __getitem__ it will let the Unauthorized exception pass through. I my situation I have two views for which the user doesn't really need the permission to access __getitem__ on the container but they can't access the views because the __getitem__ call will be tried anyway. I can explicitly make the URL use '@@viewname' and bypass the item traverser, but I don't like the @@s in the URL. I wonder whether adding Unauthorized to the KeyError would be reasonable. Christian -- Christian Theune · ct@gocept.com gocept gmbh & co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 7 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development