Thanks for you kind explanation. I may have been premature in my assessment the new Zopezen.org.
Well the proof is the in the pudding, give me a bit of time and we'll see.
But with some good people switching channels, will Zope still end up a major player in the market?
Unfortunately from my forays into the non-Zope (or Plone) into the CMS market I dont think Zope is anywhere near a major player. I just don't understand why working on Plone is considered switching channels. When I developed the CMFZen skin was that switching channels? Is Squishdot? Whenever I speak to anyone about Plone I mention Zope in the first sentence.
It will be even longer before there are decent instructions on how to get a binary build of the core Zope on windows ;-)
I know how to do this now, its actually quite simple. The burden is now on me to write something up :(
Btw how many parts are you going to have to publish for us to understand Plone?
Probably less, since I believe ZopeZen is now simpler, there is about 50% less code. However that could be me understanding CMF and Zope more.
And just as much as the other commercial/open-source projects sought to bring users to Zope, those projects are long gone. ie world pilot, spoke.net, metapublisher, etc.
Perhaps, but how will you know until you try? There's more than one reason a project goes under and in some ways Plone is quite different.
I smell commecial interest here. I smell people trying to make that one killer project hoping to make it big, instead of centering around the one vehicle that will help make a bunch of projects big someday.
I won't deny it. I believe I can sell Plone and I'm not sure I can sell Zope as easily. Its a simple fact that I have to sell what the clients want: if I spend all my time concetrating on Zope innards, I doubt I'll be able to pay the mortgage. In the last 3 months 75% of my clients have come to me for Plone, in one case I steered them to a solution in Zope because I felt it was a more appropriate solution. -- Andy McKay www.agmweb.ca