> Jim Fulton wrote:
>> On Apr 17, 2009, at 11:49 AM, Martijn Faassen wrote:
>>
>>> Simon Michael wrote:
>>>> -1, Gary's is clearer.
>>> I think what is clear or not is very subjective. I think that at least
>>> is clear.
>>
>> I think it is clear that you are disregarding many people's opinions.
>
> Okay, I'll come back with a bit more rational response than my first one.
>
> Could you also tell me how I'm disregarding people's opinions in this
> thread? Examples?
>
> Or do you think stating my own opinions and concerns, while I'm clearly
> (explicitly mentioned) thinking this topic through, is tantamount to
> disregarding other people's opinions?
>
> Do you really think I'm in this discussion with people just to disregard
> their opinions?
>
> I'm trying to consider the impact of changing a well-known well-used
> name that carries certain expectations (different ones for different
> people!) to something else that was set up explicitly to have different
> expectations, namely the Zope Toolkit.
>
> The Zope Toolkit concept was explicitly designed to *separate* those
> expectations from the (vague but broad) expectations surrounding Zope 3.
> I spent quite a bit of time trying to work that out. Now we're a few
> weeks later. It is proposed instead we rename what we called Zope 3 to
> "Zope Toolkit" and tell everybody that the expectations changed. I've
> expressed clearly that's an interesting approach and also clearly that I
> have some concerns.