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On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Tres Seaver <tseaver@palladion.com> wrote:-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 01/10/2013 06:10 PM, Matthew Wilkes wrote:Tres Seaver wrote:What is needed is not scripts, but eyeballs: we need people who know the various packages and*care* about getting them migrated to github to step up. Softwward which doesn't have a champion willing to do the work should stay behind on SVN.The community as a whole cares about having them all migrated to github. I'm sure this will happen the next time there's a sprint, just like lots of them got migrated (and subsequently deleted) at the zope4 sprint in San Francisco a few years back.The communite as-a-whole demonstrably does *not* care about many of the projects on svn.zope.org. E.g.: https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2013-January/070977.htmlWe need man-hours, sure, but not champions. Being blocked on working on the code because you're the first one to care about a package and subsequently have to learn how to do the migration is a crazy way of doing things.The foundation agreed to support moving projects to github, but that isn't a blank check. For instance, if there is substantial interest in having the projects pulled in by the current Plone buildout moved, make a list of them, and recruit the folks to step up and help with the migration for them. The effort requires includes doing the conversion, checking the results *by hand*, landing the repository, and fixing anything that breaks once you do (including stuff that breaks in projects you otherwise don't care about). Any project that can't find somebody willing to do that work (that is what I meant by a "champion") is better off staying on SVN: we don't do ourselves favors by carrying all the unmaintained baggage of fifteen years worth of development forward, just for "purity" / completeness / whatever.+1 BTW (speaking of cruft), as someone who used/abused svn.zope.org as a generic open-source hosting service (when I should have used something like code.google.com, or bitbucket, or whatever), I wonder if there should be a process for petitioning to remove projects from the ZF repositories. (Maybe this only applies to me :) Jim