Hi, just wondering what the plans are for zope 2.7 and 2.8. Specifically: 1) When is the recent release of 2.7.4b2 expected to be followed up with a 'final' (or indeed another beta) release? 2) I have seen mutterings about a 2.7.5 release, but I'm not sure why this should be necessary as I thought all 'dot releases' were only supposed to provide bug-fixes. Seeing as we're still on beta for 2.7.4, shouldn't any outstanding fixes go into that? 3) Are there plans for another 2.8 (alpha or beta) release in the near future? Is there a timeline for this? Are ZC or anyone else hanging out for this? Personally, I'm pretty keen to be able to persist new style classes (for use with the email.Message.Message class). The wiki at <http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/Zope2.8/FrontPage> seems a little out of date. Just interested. cheers, tim
--On Freitag, 17. Dezember 2004 12:27 Uhr +0000 Tim Hicks <tim@sitefusion.co.uk> wrote:
Hi,
just wondering what the plans are for zope 2.7 and 2.8. Specifically:
1) When is the recent release of 2.7.4b2 expected to be followed up with a 'final' (or indeed another beta) release?
2.7.4 final is scheduled for early January.
2) I have seen mutterings about a 2.7.5 release, but I'm not sure why this should be necessary as I thought all 'dot releases' were only supposed to provide bug-fixes. Seeing as we're still on beta for 2.7.4, shouldn't any outstanding fixes go into that?
Have you seen anything other than bugfixes in dot releases? Except some minor improvements all releases were bugfix releases only. No major new features were introduced. And new 2.7.X release will be made as long as outstanding bugs are fixed but not *every* outstanding will be fixed.
3) Are there plans for another 2.8 (alpha or beta) release in the near future? Is there a timeline for this? Are ZC or anyone else hanging out for this? Personally, I'm pretty keen to be able to persist new style classes (for use with the email.Message.Message class). The wiki at <http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/Zope2.8/FrontPage> seems a little out of date.
There are some outstanding issues that must be fixed before the next alpha 2 (ZClasses, garbage collection). I don't know when Jim can work on this issue (there are only some people with the detail knowledge to fix these issues). Since I can not enforce people to work on particular issues, a2 will released when the outstanding issues are solved. Andreas
Andreas Jung said:
1) When is the recent release of 2.7.4b2 expected to be followed up with a 'final' (or indeed another beta) release?
2.7.4 final is scheduled for early January.
Ok, thanks.
2) I have seen mutterings about a 2.7.5 release, but I'm not sure why this should be necessary as I thought all 'dot releases' were only supposed to provide bug-fixes. Seeing as we're still on beta for 2.7.4, shouldn't any outstanding fixes go into that?
Have you seen anything other than bugfixes in dot releases? Except some minor improvements all releases were bugfix releases only. No major new features were introduced. And new 2.7.X release will be made as long as outstanding bugs are fixed but not *every* outstanding will be fixed.
That's fair enough. Thanks for the clarification.
3) Are there plans for another 2.8 (alpha or beta) release in the near future? Is there a timeline for this? Are ZC or anyone else hanging out for this? Personally, I'm pretty keen to be able to persist new style classes (for use with the email.Message.Message class). The wiki at <http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/Zope2.8/FrontPage> seems a little out of date.
There are some outstanding issues that must be fixed before the next alpha 2 (ZClasses, garbage collection). I don't know when Jim can work on this issue (there are only some people with the detail knowledge to fix these issues). Since I can not enforce people to work on particular issues, a2 will released when the outstanding issues are solved.
I understand. FWIW, the two things I'd like are a stable 2.7 release in the short term to setup a new site on, and a stable 2.8 release to develop a new product on. Sounds like Santa (aka Andreas) will be bringing the former ;-). I think in the back of my mind, I was hoping that more people waiting on 2.8 to get their features into zope might speed things up on the latter - hence my wondering about the motivations for a 2.7.5 (which you have now cleared up). That said, I'm in no position to do anything other than inquire (in a most friendly and appreciative manner) about 2.8 as I'm certainly not on of the people with the 'detailed knowledge' to fix zclasses and garbage collection. cheers, tim
--On Freitag, 17. Dezember 2004 13:06 Uhr +0000 Tim Hicks <tim@sitefusion.co.uk> wrote:
FWIW, the two things I'd like are a stable 2.7 release in the short term to setup a new site on, and a stable 2.8 release to develop a new product on. Sounds like Santa (aka Andreas) will be bringing the former ;-). I think in the back of my mind, I was hoping that more people waiting on 2.8 to get their features into zope might speed things up on the latter - hence my wondering about the motivations for a 2.7.5 (which you have now cleared up).
The latest "final" releases are stable enough to work with them. Since Zope is meanwhile mostly community-driven things are done as people have time and interest and willing to spend their free-time on such a project.
That said, I'm in no position to do anything other than inquire (in a most friendly and appreciative manner) about 2.8 as I'm certainly not on of the people with the 'detailed knowledge' to fix zclasses and garbage collection.
Andreas
Tim Hicks <tim@sitefusion.co.uk> wrote:
FWIW, the two things I'd like are a stable 2.7 release in the short term to setup a new site on, and a stable 2.8 release to develop a new product on. Sounds like Santa (aka Andreas) will be bringing the former ;-). I think in the back of my mind, I was hoping that more people waiting on 2.8 to get their features into zope might speed things up on the latter - hence my wondering about the motivations for a 2.7.5 (which you have now cleared up).
That said, given that 2.8 is a *big* change in term of internals, it's pretty likely that there will be (a number of) other 2.7.* releases after 2.7.4. Florent
That said, I'm in no position to do anything other than inquire (in a most friendly and appreciative manner) about 2.8 as I'm certainly not on of the people with the 'detailed knowledge' to fix zclasses and garbage collection.
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