RE: [Zope-dev] The Product API is not easy to use!
That's Michel.
-- sorry about that...
Maybe a better question would be : are there products from business organizations that are modelled more traditionally( revenue obtained through licenseing ). Examples of which might be listed above. On a similar topic, how does Digital Creations obtain revenue?
We consult for a fee. This has allways been our business model. During the past 3 years, we have developed a killer web application in Python. So instead of keeping it closed source and having only a dozen customers, we give it away to get hundreds. Our clients have never payed for 'the software' just 'the solution'.
-- so possibly you see Zope as a sort of "residue" of your companies real products( solutions providing )?
Whats to stop a company such as mine to take Zope and totally bypass Digital Creations? Has such a thing happened before?
Go ahead. You are welcome to use any part of Zope in your own product. In fact, we *want* you to do this. If you do, however, you must comply with the license: You could concievably use our software and not credit us and not tell us, but then you would have to deal with the snarling killer dogs that Hadar hires for his lawers.
-- therefore you count your companies assets not in patents or copyrights, but rather in your ability to use and leverage existing technology like Zope.
On a less related topic... is Frontier( or any of the products listed above) similar to Zope? I've never used frontier, so I don't know. However, I do know that Frontier and Zope play well together because they speak a similar protocol, XML-RPC.
-- Is this the new version of Zope you are talking about? -- when will this be available for WinNT? -- How does digital creations cover the overhead involved for doing things like packaging releases... coordinating Zope site, ect... -- It is my contention that the software industry is moving in the direction of "Open Source" licensing. However, I have found that companies cannot let thier mission-critical systems ride on the development efforts of three million hobbyists( "a thousand voices" ). Systems( +languages? ) must be created to allow for efficient collaboration and Quality Assurance( a development democracy!!! ). Do you have any ideas in mind for how this work could be carried out? -- jmz _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
On Fri, 02 Jul 1999, Josh Zeidner wrote:
Maybe a better question would be : are there products from business organizations that are modelled more traditionally( revenue obtained through licenseing ). Examples of which might be listed above. On a similar topic, how does Digital Creations obtain revenue?
and
-- so possibly you see Zope as a sort of "residue" of your companies real products( solutions providing )?
and
Whats to stop a company such as mine to take Zope and totally bypass Digital Creations? Has such a thing happened before?
and
-- therefore you count your companies assets not in patents or copyrights, but rather in your ability to use and leverage existing technology like Zope.
and
On a less related topic... is Frontier( or any of the products listed above) similar to Zope?
and
-- Is this the new version of Zope you are talking about? -- when will this be available for WinNT?
and
-- How does digital creations cover the overhead involved for doing things like packaging releases... coordinating Zope site, ect...
and
-- It is my contention that the software industry is moving in the direction of "Open Source" licensing. However, I have found that companies cannot let thier mission-critical systems ride on the development efforts of three million hobbyists( "a thousand voices" ). Systems( +languages? ) must be created to allow for efficient collaboration and Quality Assurance( a development democracy!!! ). Do you have any ideas in mind for how this work could be carried out?
Josh, I see no questions, in your seemingly interminable series of them, which you couldn't answer for yourself simply by visiting www.zope.org and *reading* the information contained there -- much like most of the rest of the subscribers to this list have done.
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