Issues: 1. New Zope users often expect to be able to write <!--#var foo.bar--> in order to get the effect of <!--#with foo--> <!--#var bar--> <!--#/with--> 2. In 1.10.13, at least, you can create an object with "/" in its id, with confusing and inconsistent results. Proposal: 1. Don't allow "/" in object ids. 2. Do allow tags with name arguments to treat <!--#tag foo/bar/baz etc...--> as equivalent to: <!--#with foo--> <!--#with bar--> <!--#tag baz etc...---> <!--#/with--> <!--#/with--> since it's so much more concise, and nicer than <!--#tag expr="foo.bar.baz()" etc...--> (which I suspect of having slightly different semantics, as well). BTW, with this sort of thing should I just whip up a patch and send it to the Collector instead of testing the waters here? just-like-in-a-URL-ly y'rs Evan Simpson