Removing XML export from Zope 2.8
Any objects to kick the XML export from Zope 2.8 entirely? This feature is broken since ages and no one cares about it or is able/willing to fix it. It does not seem in use by anyone and it appears to me as a very useless feature. Any comments? Andreas
+1 On Fri, 2004-11-26 at 09:08, Andreas Jung wrote:
Any objects to kick the XML export from Zope 2.8 entirely? This feature is broken since ages and no one cares about it or is able/willing to fix it. It does not seem in use by anyone and it appears to me as a very useless feature. Any comments?
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Andreas Jung wrote:
Any objects to kick the XML export from Zope 2.8 entirely? This feature is broken since ages
Dang. I didn't realize that,
and no one cares about it or is able/willing to fix it.
I'm able, but I don't think it's a high-enough priority to me.
It does not seem in use by anyone and it appears to me as a very useless feature.
I think it's useful as a way to see what's actually in objects, but the use is certianly esoteric. I'd like to replace this some day with the Zope 3 fssync mechanism, which I hope to finish someday. Sigh.
Any comments?
+1 if you are sure it doesn't work now, and thus, if the change would not cause a backward incompatibility. Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:jim@zope.com Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714 http://www.python.org Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com http://www.zope.org
+1 BTW: What happened to the idea to hide "Versions" from the add menu in Zope 2.8 or provide a disabled-by-default option to use them? Cheers, Christian -- gocept gmbh & co. kg - schalaunische str. 6 - 06366 koethen - germany www.gocept.com - ct@gocept.com - phone +49 3496 30 99 112 - fax +49 3496 30 99 118 - zope and plone consulting and development
--On Freitag, 26. November 2004 16:59 Uhr +0100 Christian Theune <ct@gocept.com> wrote:
+1
BTW: What happened to the idea to hide "Versions" from the add menu in Zope 2.8 or provide a disabled-by-default option to use them?
Your dream might become reality if you implement it *wink* :-) -aj
Andreas Jung wrote:
--On Freitag, 26. November 2004 16:59 Uhr +0100 Christian Theune <ct@gocept.com> wrote:
+1
BTW: What happened to the idea to hide "Versions" from the add menu in Zope 2.8 or provide a disabled-by-default option to use them?
Your dream might become reality if you implement it *wink* :-)
+1 :) Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:jim@zope.com Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714 http://www.python.org Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com http://www.zope.org
Howdi. I'm proud to announce the recent death of OFSP.Version. The ceremony is right now on #zope-dev on freenode.net. Please wear funereal dresses. Am Freitag, den 26.11.2004, 11:15 -0500 schrieb Jim Fulton:
Your dream might become reality if you implement it *wink* :-)
+1 :)
Done. They are removed from the OFSP initialisation (as are 'Drafts' since a while -- whatever they are). I added some UI candy to tell people to stop using them (compare to the exclamation mark from page templates and a warning on the manage_main of Version objects). Theuni -- gocept gmbh & co. kg - schalaunische str. 6 - 06366 koethen - germany www.gocept.com - ct@gocept.com - phone +49 3496 30 99 112 - fax +49 3496 30 99 118 - zope and plone consulting and development
Andreas Jung wrote:
Any objects to kick the XML export from Zope 2.8 entirely? This feature is broken since ages and no one cares about it or is able/willing to fix it. It does not seem in use by anyone and it appears to me as a very useless feature. Any comments?
-1, given that the related collector issue has patches for the three issues, and a bunch of recent traffic: http://zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1219 Tres. -- =============================================================== Tres Seaver tseaver@zope.com Zope Corporation "Zope Dealers" http://www.zope.com
--On Freitag, 26. November 2004 12:20 Uhr -0500 Tres Seaver <tseaver@zope.com> wrote:
Andreas Jung wrote:
Any objects to kick the XML export from Zope 2.8 entirely? This feature is broken since ages and no one cares about it or is able/willing to fix it. It does not seem in use by anyone and it appears to me as a very useless feature. Any comments?
-1, given that the related collector issue has patches for the three issues, and a bunch of recent traffic:
Tres fixed the XML export meanwhile. A threat to remove a broken feature seems to work to get it fixed :-) Thanks Tres. Andreas
Andreas Jung wrote at 2004-11-26 15:08 +0100:
Any objects to kick the XML export from Zope 2.8 entirely? This feature is broken since ages and no one cares about it or is able/willing to fix it.
I have seen a fix posted recently: It has been a trivial problem: the "extend" method was not implemented (probably forgotten). The fix was to implement it along the same line as "append" was implemented. The XML export may be interesting for version control. The "ZCVSFolder" uses it his way. Obviously, a readable format is easier for manual merging than a binary one. Formerly, I have been actively interested in version control for objects in the ZODB. I improved therefore a bit on the XML format (I removed unnecessary id generation and used context names if possible rather than generated ids), but could not find a good solution for non "Folder" ObjectManagers. APE techniques could help with this. Meanwhile, I/we no longer have a pressing need for version control of objects in the ZODB. But some solutions would be easier if such version control (with automatic merging) were available even for ZODB objects. -- Dieter
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