Hello, Scenario: I have a web app with a form in a folder and I removed "Aquire permission settings" from the "View" permission and added the perm to the "Manager" role. The folder with the form also has an "acl_users" folder and contains users defined as "Managers". When I browse to the form in Inet Explorer, I'm prompted to log in. Issue: When I log in as one of the defined "Managers", I get three strikes then I'm out (permission denied). Why don't the logins work? More Info: I can set the "View" perm to "Anonymous" and access the form without being prompted to log in. I, as "Owner", can log in when the "Owner" perm is enabled and can't when its disabled. So, the security framework partially works, but seems to be missing something. I've tried granting "View" permission to users in the "Manager" role on a simple HTML page I imported into Zope and can't get access to that as a "Manager" either. Have other developers had this problem? Thx, Bob Van