Any thoughts on when Zope 2.7 beta1 might be available?
Hello: I am using multiple third party Python libraries with Zope, and they are no longer supporting Python 2.1.X at all. I am forced to upgrade to Python 2.2.X As I see it, my options are: 1- try to recompile Zope 2.6.1 from source using Python 2.2.2 (and cross my fingers) 2- wait for the Zope 2.7 I think Python 2.2.2 support is the most important feature for me in Zope 2.7 -- frankly I wouldn't care if that were its *only* new feature beyond what 2.6.1 supports Can anyone over at ZC give a rough ballpark estimate for when we might see a first beta of 2.7? Thanks, --Craeg
I am using multiple third party Python libraries with Zope, and they are no longer supporting Python 2.1.X at all. I am forced to upgrade to Python 2.2.X
As I see it, my options are:
1- try to recompile Zope 2.6.1 from source using Python 2.2.2 (and cross my fingers)
In my experience this works fine. The reason this isn't officially supported by Zope Corporation is that we haven't had time to thoroughly evaluate this combination, so you should indeed cross your fingers, but I don't expect there's anything that would be a showstopper for you. If you find problems, please report them here so they can be fixed in Zope 2.7! --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)
--On Freitag, 21. März 2003 2:42 Uhr -0500 Craeg K Strong <cstrong@arielpartners.com> wrote:
Hello:
I am using multiple third party Python libraries with Zope, and they are no longer supporting Python 2.1.X at all. I am forced to upgrade to Python 2.2.X
As I see it, my options are:
1- try to recompile Zope 2.6.1 from source using Python 2.2.2 (and cross my fingers) 2- wait for the Zope 2.7
I think Python 2.2.2 support is the most important feature for me in Zope 2.7 -- frankly I wouldn't care if that were its *only* new feature beyond what 2.6.1 supports
2.7alpha had been planned for February however there seems to be a delay (maybe because of the new-install-branch which seems to be a very important improvement). Feel free to work with the CVS head. And maybe anyone from ZC should update the 2.7 wiki. -aj
Hi Craeg, 2.6.X appears to work great with Python 2.2. We even removed the startup warning lately. I'd go this way were I you as 2.7 is probably still some time away and you almost certainly don't want to be tracking the trunk, as its relatively volatile at the moment. - C On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 02:42, Craeg K Strong wrote:
Hello:
I am using multiple third party Python libraries with Zope, and they are no longer supporting Python 2.1.X at all. I am forced to upgrade to Python 2.2.X
As I see it, my options are:
1- try to recompile Zope 2.6.1 from source using Python 2.2.2 (and cross my fingers) 2- wait for the Zope 2.7
I think Python 2.2.2 support is the most important feature for me in Zope 2.7 -- frankly I wouldn't care if that were its *only* new feature beyond what 2.6.1 supports
Can anyone over at ZC give a rough ballpark estimate for when we might see a first beta of 2.7?
Thanks,
--Craeg
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Chris McDonough wrote:
Hi Craeg,
2.6.X appears to work great with Python 2.2. We even removed the startup warning lately. I'd go this way were I you as 2.7 is probably still some time away and you almost certainly don't want to be tracking the trunk, as its relatively volatile at the moment.
Hi Craeg, I run 2.6.1 with Python 2.2.2 with several additional products without any problems. I learnt my lessons from upgrading to early major releases of Zope, so I would go for 2.6.1 with Python 2.2.2 instead of waiting for a (maybe) buggy release of 2.7.0... Cheers, Maik
Thanks much for the quick response. And good news, too! Hum. In your opinion, what is the best way to do this? My constraints: - I use both windows 2000 and Red Hat Linux 8 - I do *not* have a C/C++ compiler on Windows Do I need to build Zope from source in order to use Python 2.2? Or can I simply get rid of $ZOPE/lib/python2.1 and replace it with $ZOPE/lib/python2.2 (retrofit)? What are the ramifications of this choice? Sorry for so many questions; I am trying to get the most stable setup I can, while doing the least amount of setup work :-) Thanks very much! --Craeg BTW, The answers to these questions should probably be on zope.org or in a wiki somewhere, do you agree? Chris McDonough wrote:
Hi Craeg,
2.6.X appears to work great with Python 2.2. We even removed the startup warning lately. I'd go this way were I you as 2.7 is probably still some time away and you almost certainly don't want to be tracking the trunk, as its relatively volatile at the moment.
- C
On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 02:42, Craeg K Strong wrote:
Hello:
I am using multiple third party Python libraries with Zope, and they are no longer supporting Python 2.1.X at all. I am forced to upgrade to Python 2.2.X
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Craeg - The safest thing to do is to build Zope from source using Python 2.2. I do not recommend replacing the binary distro's Python with Python 2.2 (using C extensions compiled with earlier versions of Python will at least generate warnings and may actually cause problems). This is obviously going to be a problem Windows. I don't have any answers for you there. This is one of the reasons that Zope is 'not officially supported' under Python 2.2. There are no Py22/Zope2.6.X binary distros available and no step-by-step upgrade procedures to retrofit an existing 2.6 binary installation with Python 2.2. About the best you can hope for is to persuade someone to compile Zope on Windows under Python 2.2 for you, and even then it's not clear that Zope will be guaranteed to run as a service (the Wise installer script ZC uses to make binary Windows releases does all of this magic and is not distributed with Zope). Or wait for 2.7. - C PS - this is a good excuse to ditch Windows. ;-) On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 12:23, Craeg K Strong wrote:
Thanks much for the quick response. And good news, too!
Hum. In your opinion, what is the best way to do this? My constraints:
- I use both windows 2000 and Red Hat Linux 8 - I do *not* have a C/C++ compiler on Windows
Do I need to build Zope from source in order to use Python 2.2? Or can I simply get rid of $ZOPE/lib/python2.1 and replace it with $ZOPE/lib/python2.2 (retrofit)? What are the ramifications of this choice?
Sorry for so many questions; I am trying to get the most stable setup I can, while doing the least amount of setup work :-)
Thanks very much!
--Craeg
BTW, The answers to these questions should probably be on zope.org or in a wiki somewhere, do you agree?
Chris McDonough wrote:
Hi Craeg,
2.6.X appears to work great with Python 2.2. We even removed the startup warning lately. I'd go this way were I you as 2.7 is probably still some time away and you almost certainly don't want to be tracking the trunk, as its relatively volatile at the moment.
- C
On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 02:42, Craeg K Strong wrote:
Hello:
I am using multiple third party Python libraries with Zope, and they are no longer supporting Python 2.1.X at all. I am forced to upgrade to Python 2.2.X
copies -- including electronic copies -- of the original message.
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Craeg K Strong wrote:
Thanks much for the quick response. And good news, too!
Hum. In your opinion, what is the best way to do this? My constraints:
- I use both windows 2000 and Red Hat Linux 8 - I do *not* have a C/C++ compiler on Windows
I do ;-) Anything in particular you'd like a build of? cheers, Chris
Yes, a build of Zope 2.6.1 using Python 2.2.2 would be fantastic! I understand it would not be officially supported, but it would give me the chance to test out my zope products using the latest Python. I am not sure if you could post the binaries somewhere public, but my guess is that they would probably be useful for others in the same situation. Of course you would want to put a disclaimer there about support in BOLD letters :) Thanks again for the offer! --Craeg Chris Withers wrote:
Craeg K Strong wrote:
Thanks much for the quick response. And good news, too!
Hum. In your opinion, what is the best way to do this? My constraints:
- I use both windows 2000 and Red Hat Linux 8 - I do *not* have a C/C++ compiler on Windows
I do ;-)
Anything in particular you'd like a build of?
cheers,
Chris
i started up a wiki page @ http://www.zope.org/Members/k_vertigo/ShortStories/python2_2 which details some of the issues with running python2.2 and zope2.6, contributions welcome. fwiw, i've been running python2.2 and zope2.6 for development and production on mac os x (server&desktop) and linux without any problems. -haz Chris McDonough wrote:
Hi Craeg,
2.6.X appears to work great with Python 2.2. We even removed the startup warning lately. I'd go this way were I you as 2.7 is probably still some time away and you almost certainly don't want to be tracking the trunk, as its relatively volatile at the moment.
- C
On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 02:42, Craeg K Strong wrote:
Hello:
I am using multiple third party Python libraries with Zope, and they are no longer supporting Python 2.1.X at all. I am forced to upgrade to Python 2.2.X
As I see it, my options are:
1- try to recompile Zope 2.6.1 from source using Python 2.2.2 (and cross my fingers) 2- wait for the Zope 2.7
I think Python 2.2.2 support is the most important feature for me in Zope 2.7 -- frankly I wouldn't care if that were its *only* new feature beyond what 2.6.1 supports
Can anyone over at ZC give a rough ballpark estimate for when we might see a first beta of 2.7?
Thanks,
--Craeg
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