Developer meeting today at 15:00 UTC
Hi again, our weekly meeting is coming up today at 15:00 UTC. I'd like to catch up with topics that have been in limbo for a while: - Supporting Python 2.7 - Abandoned projects - Windows compiler licenses Does anybody else have other topics? Christian -- Christian Theune · ct@gocept.com gocept gmbh & co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development _______________________________________________ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Hi. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Christian Theune <ct@gocept.com> wrote:
our weekly meeting is coming up today at 15:00 UTC.
I won't make it to todays meeting, so some notes upfront.
- Supporting Python 2.7
I thought the current plan is to try to support Python 2.7 for ZTK 1.1 (which will then be Python 2.5 - 2.7). Currently 1.0 beta is still blocked on test issues. Before we don't get these tests fixed, there is no point in branching off the ZTK trunk to a 1.0 branch and allowing feature development to happen. If we cannot get the tests fixed on the current list of supported systems, adding whole new ZTK version set will only make matters much worse. Of course everyone is free to tackle Python 2.7 compatibility for any distribution individually. I think it's only zope.app distributions that have problems here.
- Windows compiler licenses
After much hassle and some friendly support folks at Microsoft I finally received my license. Hanno
Hi, On 08/31/2010 10:32 AM, Hanno Schlichting wrote:
Hi.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Christian Theune<ct@gocept.com> wrote:
our weekly meeting is coming up today at 15:00 UTC.
I won't make it to todays meeting, so some notes upfront.
Thanks for noting. That reminds me that I can't be there either, but I'll ask Charlie whether he can take over. Christian -- Christian Theune · ct@gocept.com gocept gmbh & co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development
Am 31.08.2010, 10:34 Uhr, schrieb Christian Theune <ct@gocept.com>:
Thanks for noting. That reminds me that I can't be there either, but I'll ask Charlie whether he can take over.
Sure, if you need me to. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting & Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226
On 8/31/10 10:32 , Hanno Schlichting wrote:
Hi.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Christian Theune<ct@gocept.com> wrote:
our weekly meeting is coming up today at 15:00 UTC.
I won't make it to todays meeting, so some notes upfront.
- Supporting Python 2.7
I thought the current plan is to try to support Python 2.7 for ZTK 1.1 (which will then be Python 2.5 - 2.7). Currently 1.0 beta is still blocked on test issues. Before we don't get these tests fixed, there is no point in branching off the ZTK trunk to a 1.0 branch and allowing feature development to happen. If we cannot get the tests fixed on the current list of supported systems, adding whole new ZTK version set will only make matters much worse.
It does bring up an interesting question: if not all supported systems can be supported, should support for some systems be dropped? Wichert.
Please don't drop 2.5 support yet. I use zope.component, zope.interface, zope.event, zope.lifecyclevent on all my projects on appengine ;-) and that won't be moving from 2.5 for a while I suspect. T On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Wichert Akkerman <wichert@wiggy.net> wrote:
On 8/31/10 10:32 , Hanno Schlichting wrote:
Hi.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Christian Theune<ct@gocept.com> wrote:
our weekly meeting is coming up today at 15:00 UTC.
I won't make it to todays meeting, so some notes upfront.
- Supporting Python 2.7
I thought the current plan is to try to support Python 2.7 for ZTK 1.1 (which will then be Python 2.5 - 2.7). Currently 1.0 beta is still blocked on test issues. Before we don't get these tests fixed, there is no point in branching off the ZTK trunk to a 1.0 branch and allowing feature development to happen. If we cannot get the tests fixed on the current list of supported systems, adding whole new ZTK version set will only make matters much worse.
It does bring up an interesting question: if not all supported systems can be supported, should support for some systems be dropped?
Wichert. _______________________________________________ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Am 31.08.2010, 11:31 Uhr, schrieb Tim Hoffman <zutesmog@gmail.com>:
Please don't drop 2.5 support yet. I use zope.component, zope.interface, zope.event, zope.lifecyclevent on all my projects on appengine and that won't be moving from 2.5 for a while I suspect.
Hi Tim, thanks to Hanno's clarifications on IRC last week let me point out that we are talking about the roadmap for the ZTK 1.1. Support for Python 2.4 *will* be dropped this year. Python 2.5 is likely to survive longer not least because it is the supported version on the current version of Debian, although it's looking likely that there will be a new release (Debian 6.0 aka Squeeze) in the not too distant future. And I guess that GAE is still tied to 2.5? Beyond that, however, I think it's only reasonable to start looking at the migration towards a codebase that runs on Python 3.x and that may, at some point, mandate dropping support for Python 2.5. This especially in light of the fact that Python 2.5 itself is in maintenance mode. At the moment I think any incomaptabilities are related to tests and "implements". However, this is all in the future and subject, no doubt, to review. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting & Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226
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Please don't drop 2.5 support yet. I use zope.component, zope.interface, zope.event, zope.lifecyclevent on all my projects on appengine ;-) and that won't be moving from 2.5 for a while I suspect.
You should be planning to stick with the ZTK 1.0 release line, then, as it is known to support your platform. The 1.1 versions may drop support for Python 2.5, and definitely will drop support for 2.4; those versions will be supported by ZTK 1.0. Tres. - -- =================================================================== Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 tseaver@palladion.com Palladion Software "Excellence by Design" http://palladion.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkx9V6gACgkQ+gerLs4ltQ5w+gCfVFMrnoIjJYeWJ3gOcTfqyXXM TnUAnA8+82M81z5i4+CBBTpMK+s2GPoF =xBEk -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Am 31.08.2010, 10:23 Uhr, schrieb Christian Theune <ct@gocept.com>:
- Supporting Python 2.7 - Abandoned projects - Windows compiler licenses
Hi all, sorry for the delay. The minutes are now up at http://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit/zope-dev/zope-dev-20100831.html What about today? Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting & Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226
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