Hello, I'm looking for place to host our source code for Hivurt. We have some choices to use our and switch to free services. As one of the best it Google Code, but it have strict license policy. And there is no ZPL in list. ZPL is GPL compatible, but it is not the same. Second SF.NET, but, AFAIK, it has a lot of problems. What you can recommend? -- Mikhail Kashkin, skype:mkashkin, jabber:mkashkin@gmail.com Key Solutions (http://keysolutions.ru/) Offshore Zope3 development
On 11.11.2007, at 19:41, Mikhail Kashkin wrote:
Hello,
I'm looking for place to host our source code for Hivurt. We have some choices to use our and switch to free services.
As one of the best it Google Code, but it have strict license policy. And there is no ZPL in list. ZPL is GPL compatible, but it is not the same. Second SF.NET, but, AFAIK, it has a lot of problems.
What you can recommend?
svn.zope.org + launchpad.net as the rest of the zope world?
-- Mikhail Kashkin, skype:mkashkin, jabber:mkashkin@gmail.com Key Solutions (http://keysolutions.ru/) Offshore Zope3 development
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Jodok Batlogg wrote:
I'm looking for place to host our source code for Hivurt.
svn.zope.org + launchpad.net as the rest of the zope world?
That is mean that all our developers need signed contribution agreement and writing rights to submit code into zope repository and be members of Zope Foundation? I don't think every ZoFo member agree with this. launchpad.net from other hand is best place, especially if zope3 is hosted here. -- Mikhail Kashkin, skype:mkashkin, jabber:mkashkin@gmail.com Key Solutions (http://keysolutions.ru/) Offshore Zope3 development
On Sunday 11 November 2007, Mikhail Kashkin wrote:
Jodok Batlogg wrote:
I'm looking for place to host our source code for Hivurt.
svn.zope.org + launchpad.net as the rest of the zope world?
That is mean that all our developers need signed contribution agreement and writing rights to submit code into zope repository and be members of Zope Foundation? I don't think every ZoFo member agree with this.
Yes, everyone has to sign a contributor agreement, but you do not have to become a Zope Foundation member. Note that svn.zope.org will also provide you with a lot of visibility to the right people. You may also consider codespeak.net.
launchpad.net from other hand is best place, especially if zope3 is hosted here.
Note that we only use launchpad for development support, such as issue tracking and translating. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU Physics & Chemistry (B.S.) / Tufts Physics (Ph.D. student) Web2k - Web Software Design, Development and Training
On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 06:37:22PM -0500, Stephan Richter wrote:
Yes, everyone has to sign a contributor agreement, but you do not have to become a Zope Foundation member.
I had the impression, from the recent ZF IRC chat, that the process of adding new contributors is currently blocked - but perhaps I misunderstood? -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com
On Sunday 11 November 2007, Paul Winkler wrote:
Today 21:16:09
On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 06:37:22PM -0500, Stephan Richter wrote:
Yes, everyone has to sign a contributor agreement, but you do not have to become a Zope Foundation member.
I had the impression, from the recent ZF IRC chat, that the process of adding new contributors is currently blocked - but perhaps I misunderstood?
No, it blocks the move of the source to the ZF. You can still sign the non-ZF contributor agreement (version 1.1) and become a commiter today. I signed up several people a month ago during the Foliage Sprint. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU Physics & Chemistry (B.S.) / Tufts Physics (Ph.D. student) Web2k - Web Software Design, Development and Training
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On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 06:37:22PM -0500, Stephan Richter wrote:
Yes, everyone has to sign a contributor agreement, but you do not have to become a Zope Foundation member.
I had the impression, from the recent ZF IRC chat, that the process of adding new contributors is currently blocked - but perhaps I misunderstood?
We can't move the code ownership yet (from ZC to ZF) because once we *do*, becoming a contributor will be governed by ZF rules, which are currently self-contradictory: at that point, we would be unable to add new committers at all. Tres. - -- =================================================================== Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 tseaver@palladion.com Palladion Software "Excellence by Design" http://palladion.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHOIsY+gerLs4ltQ4RAi2yAJ40m2B5ybP+5JklsjfnRJc3ou4t4wCgvXWp bpfceBN6LIelVJIEDqzGcmk= =0jE+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 12:19:20PM -0500, Tres Seaver wrote:
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Paul Winkler wrote:
On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 06:37:22PM -0500, Stephan Richter wrote:
Yes, everyone has to sign a contributor agreement, but you do not have to become a Zope Foundation member.
I had the impression, from the recent ZF IRC chat, that the process of adding new contributors is currently blocked - but perhaps I misunderstood?
We can't move the code ownership yet (from ZC to ZF) because once we *do*, becoming a contributor will be governed by ZF rules, which are currently self-contradictory: at that point, we would be unable to add new committers at all.
I see, thanks. What I just can't figure out is: what is the current process of becoming a comitter. http://www.zope.org/DevHome/Subversion/FrontPage still links to http://www.zope.org/DevHome/Subversion/Contributor.pdf which is very old. Is it still used? I probably still have commit access from the pre-ZF days, but the employer information I submitted has changed several times since then. Now that I've started working for a more enlightened employer, I would like to start checking in bugfixes again but I don't know whether I should just use my old keys, or submit a new form, or what. - PW
On Monday 12 November 2007, Paul Winkler wrote:
I probably still have commit access from the pre-ZF days, but the employer information I submitted has changed several times since then. Now that I've started working for a more enlightened employer, I would like to start checking in bugfixes again but I don't know whether I should just use my old keys, or submit a new form, or what.
You can use your old keys, if you have them. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU Physics & Chemistry (B.S.) / Tufts Physics (Ph.D. student) Web2k - Web Software Design, Development and Training
On Nov 12, 2007, at 2:00 PM, Paul Winkler wrote:
On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 12:19:20PM -0500, Tres Seaver wrote:
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Paul Winkler wrote:
On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 06:37:22PM -0500, Stephan Richter wrote:
Yes, everyone has to sign a contributor agreement, but you do not have to become a Zope Foundation member.
I had the impression, from the recent ZF IRC chat, that the process of adding new contributors is currently blocked - but perhaps I misunderstood?
We can't move the code ownership yet (from ZC to ZF) because once we *do*, becoming a contributor will be governed by ZF rules, which are currently self-contradictory: at that point, we would be unable to add new committers at all.
I see, thanks.
What I just can't figure out is: what is the current process of becoming a comitter. http://www.zope.org/DevHome/Subversion/FrontPage still links to http://www.zope.org/DevHome/Subversion/Contributor.pdf which is very old. Is it still used?
Yes.
I probably still have commit access from the pre-ZF days, but the employer information I submitted has changed several times since then. Now that I've started working for a more enlightened employer, I would like to start checking in bugfixes again but I don't know whether I should just use my old keys, or submit a new form, or what.
Submitting a new form would be nice. :) Jim -- Jim Fulton Zope Corporation
Stephan Richter wrote:
Yes, everyone has to sign a contributor agreement, but you do not have to become a Zope Foundation member.
Please gimme advice or a link, AFAIK after standing up ZoFo (sounds very nerdy B-) haha ) old rules changed. What we need to do?
Note that svn.zope.org will also provide you with a lot of visibility to the right people.
Ok, I wait for your second invitation after pre-alfa release, as old russian tradition %)
You may also consider codespeak.net.
we have own source hosting, and more complex question is about rights for this code. We don't yet create any official organization for Hivurt. Who will be source code rights holder this way? P.S. (Martijn voice as on EuroPython): [May be] This Friday.....world will change.....forever -- Mikhail Kashkin, skype:mkashkin, jabber:mkashkin@gmail.com Key Solutions (http://keysolutions.ru/) Offshore Zope3 development
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Stephan Richter wrote:
Yes, everyone has to sign a contributor agreement, but you do not have to become a Zope Foundation member.
Please gimme advice or a link, AFAIK after standing up ZoFo (sounds very nerdy B-) haha ) old rules changed. What we need to do?
The rules haven't yet changed, because the copyright transfer is not yet completed; that transfer has been held up because the ZF bylaws have issues which would prevent adding contributors once the transfer is done. So, just do what the docs still say: fill out the form and send a scan of it (or fax it) to Jim Fulton. Tres. - -- =================================================================== Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 tseaver@palladion.com Palladion Software "Excellence by Design" http://palladion.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHO4Di+gerLs4ltQ4RAkpeAJ9sIxTEtdM1NsytCXKo+Z0rJcENwwCgrMeX bI6h4CkowymOP7jIh02aFJQ= =B2F+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
I believe you can host code on launchpad.net too, but using 'bzr' instead of Subversion. -- Sidnei da Silva Enfold Systems http://enfoldsystems.com Fax +1 832 201 8856 Office +1 713 942 2377 Ext 214
Sidnei da Silva wrote:
I believe you can host code on launchpad.net too, but using 'bzr' instead of Subversion.
There is a lot of tools include online services such as ohloh.net, that use subversion. For example eggs can automatically checkout from svn. Does bzr repos allow that? BTW, who using bazaar as main control versions system? -- Mikhail Kashkin, skype:mkashkin, jabber:mkashkin@gmail.com Key Solutions (http://keysolutions.ru/) Offshore Zope3 development
Mikhail Kashkin wrote:
Sidnei da Silva wrote:
I believe you can host code on launchpad.net too, but using 'bzr' instead of Subversion.
There is a lot of tools include online services such as ohloh.net, that use subversion. For example eggs can automatically checkout from svn.
This isn't something I would recommend doing, though. But if you want it, there's a plugin for setuptools that makes it talk to bzr: http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi/setuptoolsbzr
BTW, who using bazaar as main control versions system?
Canonical (Ubuntu, Launchpad, etc.) does, for example.
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Jim Fulton -
Jodok Batlogg -
Mikhail Kashkin -
Paul Winkler -
Philipp von Weitershausen -
Sidnei da Silva -
Stephan Richter -
Tres Seaver