Somebody mentioned wanting to get rid of HelpSys. For experimental purposes here's a patch that removes HelpSys requirements: http://audible.transient.net/zope/nohelpsys.diff Once this patch is applied you can rm -r lib/python/HelpSys Its not heavily tested, its made against CVS HEAD, have fun. Notes: I didn't bother patching Products/ZopeTutorial, I figure if you aren't going to bother with online help an online tutorial is earmarked for deletion as well. -- Jamie Heilman http://audible.transient.net/~jamie/ "Most people wouldn't know music if it came up and bit them on the ass." -Frank Zappa