RE: [Zope] Re: Zope hanging (poss. threads-related)
[following suit and moving this over to zope-dev.org]
-----Original Message----- From: Tres Seaver [mailto:tseaver@palladion.com] Sent: 13 April 2000 19:55 To: Marcus Collins; zope-dev@zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] Re: Zope hanging (poss. threads-related)
Hmm, _I_ was the one making that argument. I guess I wasn't really urging everyone to quit posting to the list -- rather, I hoped that the community could "harvest" the information from the list and massage it into a useful format for problem solving (e.g., to make it possible to notice connections bewteen pieces of information which appear on the list at fairly disparate times). Most of the pages I put up there to start with wree attempts to categorize types of problems, and also potential sources of them.
OK, I'm afraid I misunderstood you at first. I've seen the fault of my ways, repented, and quite agree with you and with Michel, that the Wiki is in fact quite suited to this. I'll be putting up bits and pieces there as soon as I can get a chance (and, I confess, figure out Wiki :-).
Perhaps is was a caching issue? I clicked the link, saw that I was not logged in, logged in, returned to the page, and had to force a reload to see the "Edit this page" links.
This was indeed the problem; certainly operator failure not to realise it... Thanks. Now back to documenting the problem! -- Marcus
Marcus Collins wrote:
Now back to documenting the problem!
Thank you for starting this. I'll try to gather up information I've been trying to collect here and post it in the next few days. RE: could be zombie related - Where might I find more info on this? Could this zombie issue be present in FCGI as well? We have noticed once restarts start they get worse when under a load. I've been suspecting that the longer pages take to load the more people are just stopping the page load, and this would/could create a zombie. The problem is I don't know how to identify or research what is going on under the hood. Could when someone terminates a connection be an issue here? I mean; if the request in queued waiting for a thread might act differently than a request that is being processed by Zope and waiting on a DB query, or even termination once zope has already started passing results back through the pipe. Our restarts are so hard to tie down I'm guessing it's a very subtle issue or a combination of just the wrong factors. Just some more food for thought. -- ------------------------------- tonyr@ep.newtimes.com Director of Web Technology New Times, Inc. -------------------------------
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