RE: [Zope-dev] I have a dream!
-----Original Message----- From: Sin Hang Kin [mailto:kentsin@poboxes.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 10:35 PM To: zope-admin@zope.org; zope-dev@zope.org Subject: [Zope-dev] I have a dream!
The Zope creator:
Being around for almost a year, I still not able to handle its syntax.
I recently notice zope have several xml products. I have a dream to able to draw my web site with a WYSIWYG editor and save it as XML, then, Zope convert it into a zope tree. This ever have advantage for normal document, which, for example, if i need to cross-reference a part, I could just specify an id for that part, and insert it with dtml syntax.
I believe a couple of people are working on such a project, they can chime in on that.
This combine with WEBDAV with so turning zope an ideal document management server. We would see that it point to very promising and creative use of zope. If zope is fast and stable enough, it can even play as an object file system.
It *is* an object filesystem, just not mountable by any other applications ;). Of course, they could happen, might even been a good idea.
I would like to re-arrange the recent zope (dtml) syntax to allow the use of dot (.) as object name ; a syntax like that xsl using to reference to objects in the zope tree; and a unified the naming of zope-defined variables and methods.
Why not integrate XSL into Zope?
I would also like zope to handle true xml with full unicode support, changing zope syntax (dtml) to compily with xml so it can be processed by zope and other xml tools.
An XML version of DTML would be a good idea (or at least DTML that is syntactically identical to XML) because of all the cool XML editors that will soon come flying at us at high speed.
I hope I am not asking for too much, but I can't hold to spell out my dream. The last wish is zope be compatible with both cpython and jpython.
This would be a pretty hard part of your dream to realize, someone would have to think very hard about it and be very, very good with both python and Java. Remember, alot of the trickiest parts of Zope are written in C, and almost all objects dabble their hands in Acquisition, which is written in While were on the subject, I have a dream too, people not sending HTML encoded mail to the list. ;) -Michel
Michel Pelletier wrote:
Sin Hang Kin [mailto:kentsin@poboxes.com] wrote: [snip]
I recently notice zope have several xml products. I have a dream to able to draw my web site with a WYSIWYG editor and save it as XML, then, Zope convert it into a zope tree. This ever have advantage for normal document, which, for example, if i need to cross-reference a part, I could just specify an id for that part, and insert it with dtml syntax.
I believe a couple of people are working on such a project, they can chime in on that.
XMLWidgets (a product you can download) is an attempt in this direction (though not exactly). There's a through-the-web semi-WYSIWYG XML (one specific DTD only though) editor in there. It's still in severe alpha state, though. [snip]
I would like to re-arrange the recent zope (dtml) syntax to allow the use of dot (.) as object name ; a syntax like that xsl using to reference to objects in the zope tree; and a unified the naming of zope-defined variables and methods.
Why not integrate XSL into Zope?
If ever I get time I do want to look at integrating Fourthought's XSL stuff into Zope. Unfortunately I've said the 'If I get time' thing about about 400 projects right now, so don't hold your breath. :) Note that more plans/focus on better XML integration into Zope would be strategically good for digicool too.. I've heard rather little after the initial XMLDocument flurry (hint hint). Of course there's XML export, XML-RPC, SOAP, and so on, but those are for interoperability (using XML). What I'm thinking about is more XML related Zope products, things you can make web pages from. [snip more] Regards, Martijn
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