First, I'll respect Patrick's statement to keep it on this list. However, if anybody wants to spread the word on the other list, that's fine too. It isn't just odd that a few XML messages came in at the same time. What's even more odd is that Mike and Uche (FourThought) were in our (Digital Creations) office today, working with us on integrating their XML with our Zope efforts! Serendipity, to be sure. The basic idea is that we are footing the bill for them to (a) look at getting XML Document up to 1.0, and (b) bringing their leadership to ZDOM. The latter hopefully means making 4DOM (plus some Zope-specific extensions) the replacement for ZDOM. Since 4DOM is likely to become Python DOM, this brings a ton of benefits, including some world-class talent. Note, though, what _isn't_ on the table right now: XPath and XSLT. If the "bounty" wants to get together and get that on the immediate radar, now's the time. Either fund DC or FourThought. Anybody that's interested, send me a private note and we'll get the pool going. In summary, Zope's XML started getting better yesterday morning, and the first deliverables should start landing in under six weeks. --Paul

-----Original Message----- From: Patrick Phalen [mailto:zope@teleo.net] Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 4:07 PM To: zope-dev@zope.org Subject: [Zope-dev] Ante Up? (Was Re: [Zope-dev] RE: [Zope] XSL for Zope - a bounty on this?)

I'm not crossposting this, since most interested parties are likely to be on this list.

This could make an interesting experiment in community action.

Obviously, the best target for this sort of development would be DC. Their usual business model is built on a single client paying them for consulting against a goal. What we seem to be considering here is a consortium of users ponying up for a solution, in order to have it quickly, but with the proviso that everyone benefits.

I certainly think it could work and that it would lead to a quick solution to the "problem." But it's a little like a poker game, eh?

So, how to go about putting money in the pot? Can it be done right here on this list?

[Damian Morton, on Fri, 10 Mar 2000] :: The bounty I have in mind is for an Open Source XSL in Zope. :: :: > -----Original Message----- :: > From: Nitin Borwankar [mailto:nitin@borwankar.com] :: > :: > :: > Damian Morton <morton@dennisinter.com> wrote :: > :: > > The question on my mind is: how much do other people want XSL in Zope? :: > > Im willing and able to put some $$$ up for a bounty on this. Is :: > anyone else? :: > :: > I am willing to put up $$$ for this also assuming it is to go :: > Open Source. :: > :: > Nitin Borwankar, :: > nitin@borwankar.com :: > :: > :: > > :: > > --------------------------------------------------------------- :: > > :: > > Heres what Uche Ogbuji of FourThought has to say about Zope :: > > http://www.pythonjournal.com/volume1/issue2/col-intranetpython/ :: > > :: > > The Zope Dope :: > > Digital Creations, fresh from a capital infusion, has given :: > Pythoneers their :: > > first complete native Web application platform in Zope. the "Z Object :: > > Publishing Environment". Zope is similar in scope to Cold Fusion or :: > > SilverStream, but open-source and python-powered. :: > > :: > > Zope accumulates many bits and pieces of a successful Intranet site. It :: > > incorporates a database management system with object extensions (which, :: > > unfortunately, doesn't yet support the Object Database :: > Management Group's :: > > specifications) as well as facilities for developing template :: > Web sites, an :: > > application framework, a CGI mechanism for handling HTTP requests for :: > > objects, an HTTP and FTP server, and a comprehensive :: > application framework :: > > to tie it all together. Z Templates are developed using a proprietary :: > > XML-based language, the Document Template Markup Language :: > (DTML). ZTML does :: > > make some departures from the XML community in such areas as :: > style-sheets, :: > > but it is hoped that Digital Creations or other contributors to :: > Zope will :: > > work to close that gap. :: > > :: > > Zope is a synthesis of Digital Creations' many earlier products, such as :: > > Bobo, Principia and PCGI. Bobo has been especially popular :: > among Python/Web :: > > programmers, and Zope looks poised to retain the tradition. If Zope can :: > > move a bit closer towards object database and XML-processing :: > standards, it :: > > is likely to be quite popular outside the Python community as well. :: > > :: > > _______________________________________________ :: > > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org :: > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope :: > > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** :: > > (Related lists - :: > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce :: > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) :: > :: > :: :: :: _______________________________________________ :: Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org :: http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev :: ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** :: (Related lists - :: http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce :: http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )

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