(I appologize if this arrives twice, this webmail interface is a little flaky.) Wow, three XML posts so close together. :) First, I'm sure DC wouldn't have any problems with outsiders working on core parts of Zope. Witness PythonMethods. Of course, it would have to be *good* code. That said, I'd be willing to do some contract work to get such a thing done. I wasn't going to post the URL to this for a while, but since it's germange to the discussion... http://www.zope.org/Members/otto/bluesky_xml. I started writing it about a week and a half ago, just cleaned it up a bit so it's worth putting out there. Not cataloged, or even requested to be, yet. The scope there is a little larger than just XSL.. personally, I don't think it's overkill, but someone may disagree with me. :) Comments and questions welcomed... though if you post to the list, please cc me. I subscribe to the digest and will likely not see replies for a long while unless they're cc'd. -Otto. -----Original Message----- From: zope-dev-admin@zope.org Sent: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 11:44:20 -0800 (PST) To: zope-dev@zope.org Subject: Zope-Dev digest, Vol 1 #428 - 17 msgs Message: 15 From: morton@dennisinter.com (Damian Morton) To: <zope-dev@zope.org>, <zope@zope.org> Subject: [Zope-dev] XSL for Zope - a bounty on this? Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:20:26 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" A number of people have expressed a desire to have XSL support in Zope. The projects I am working on also seem to be needing the application of XSL, and whilst we can (and will) use some external XSL processor, it would seem that a 'cleaner' solution would be to have XSL support directly in Zope. I originally came to want to use Zope because I needed a tool that allowed the manipulation of a persistant tree of objects; my prototype was done in XML, but it needed persistance, an interface, and a programming language, hence the use of Zope. Even having only XPath support would be an extremely usefull way for packaging up simple 'queries' on the Zope database. Ive been looking around at the Python XSL implementations and the FourThought 4suite is looking pretty damned good, especially considering their goal of eventual ODMG 2.0 support. Zope desparately needs some standards compliance, even if only for the buzzwords. The question on my mind is: how much do other people want XSL in Zope? Im willing and able to put some $$$ up for a bounty on this. Is anyone else? I guess Id also like to heard what DC has to say about this; whether they are willing to have an external group contribute/merge a key technology into their codebase, and if they have any preferences about who this group might be. [snip] --__--__-- Message: 16 From: "Josh Zeidner" <jmz_phylogenic@hotmail.com> To: zope-dev@zope.org Subject: [Zope-dev] friday afternoon comments on XML and Zope Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 13:27:36 EST hello, I have been watching the activity on this newsgroup while developing a commercial system in Zope, and I feel I have made a few observations which might be useful to the Zope community at large. I am seeing a lot of similarities in the phylogeny of the XML spec and Zope. Currently, I have been involved in finding a solution for the the transformation of structured data in Zope. We ( myself and Damien Morton ) have been searching for a simple way of expressing selection and expansions of a tree-like data structure. It seems to me the best way to express these type of problems is with languages like XPath and XSLT. In addition, the development of a "zope data pointer" is remarkably similar to the problem that the drafters of the XLink specification are working out( in much larger numbers and levels of experience ). So... what I am implying is, as was touched upon before in a reply to one of my posts : is that if Zope were to be more tightly coupled to the XML specifiation, it would greatly increase Zope's user base and list of adaptable technologies. Zope is just not ready and willing to have XSL, XPath, and Xlink plugged right in. In order to use such non-proprietary technologies, custom logic must be applied to Zope: why should this be? Should Zope( being that it practically IS XML already ) be more *XML compliant*? In a nutshell- more XML friendly features built into the core of Zope is something I would like to see in future releases. Other than that, thanks for all your responses- viva la Zope. -josh zeidner ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --__--__-- Message: 17 Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 10:49:21 -0800 From: Nitin Borwankar <nitin@borwankar.com> To: Damian Morton <morton@dennisinter.com> CC: zope-dev@zope.org, zope@zope.org Subject: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] XSL for Zope - a bounty on this? Damian Morton <morton@dennisinter.com> wrote

The question on my mind is: how much do other people want XSL in Zope? Im willing and able to put some $$$ up for a bounty on this. Is anyone else?

I am willing to put up $$$ for this also assuming it is to go Open Source. Nitin Borwankar, nitin@borwankar.com ______________________________________________________________________ Get Visto.com! Private groups, event calendars, email, and much more. Visto.com. Life on the Dot. Check it out @ http://www.visto.com/info