This is seriously strange. I have not seen this before...ever. What would prevent and Zclass instance of meta_type 'ZGL_Client' that is viewable by the URL http://localhost:8080/955393378581117/955393587277964 To not be seen anywhere in the Management interface, or indexed by the Catalog using the 'Find Items' tab. Basically it doesn't exist anywhere that I can see, except to put in that URL. "Objects should appear in folder lists" is checked for both this object and it's parent object. The management interface shows nothing, and the Catalog only indexes it if I type in index_object after the URL and force it. And for the final kicker...the old "Find" tab shows that there are no 'ZGL_Client' meta_type in the ZODB. The instance reacts fine to all of the changes I make to the ZClass too. It is just invisible. Any ideas? -- Jason Spisak 444@hiretechs.com