The DA status page says this is "integrated", but I can't find it in the Zope 2.b4 release, or on the downloads page. I do find the jan 99 zsybase adapter in the contribs page. Is this commercial only at this time? I'd like to try this adapter instead of ODBC to get at MS-SQL server.. Brad Clements, bkc@murkworks.com (315)268-1000 http://www.murkworks.com (315)268-9812 Fax netmeeting: ils://ils.murkworks.com ICQ: 14856937