ActiveState / DC Collaboration
This is to the folks at DC; Will there be an effort to make Zope 2.3.x play with ActivePython 2.0 or is this a longer range goal ... Zope 3.x ??? I know there are alot of other irons in the fire but I am just trying to make some design decisions. I am bringing up multiple Zope sites in about six weeks. A small part of the effort can easily be accomplished with WEBDav clients but a significant portion of the site has evolved over the past 6 years and it is Perl/CGI. I know I can go the Python 1.5.2/distutils/compile source route but would prefer to leverage ActiveStates efforts and simply use pyppm to install pyperl and ppm to install Hack-Names. Any insight would be much appreciated. Eric
Will there be an effort to make Zope 2.3.x play with ActivePython 2.0 or is this a longer range goal ... Zope 3.x ??? I know there are alot of other irons in the fire but I am just trying to make some design decisions.
The next Zope feature release (2.4.0) will be based on and require Python 2.1. So AFAIK, you should be able to take advantage of ActivePython2.1 with Zope 2.4. Brian Lloyd brian@digicool.com Software Engineer 540.371.6909 Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com
Will the python you distribute for windows be bare bones (without header files like the current version) ? Cheers. -- Andy McKay. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Lloyd" <brian@digicool.com> To: "Eric Roby" <vekn@msn.com>; <zope-dev@zope.org> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 11:02 AM Subject: RE: [Zope-dev] ActiveState / DC Collaboration
Will there be an effort to make Zope 2.3.x play with ActivePython 2.0 or is this a longer range goal ... Zope 3.x ??? I know there are alot of other irons in the fire but I am just trying to make some design decisions.
The next Zope feature release (2.4.0) will be based on and require Python 2.1. So AFAIK, you should be able to take advantage of ActivePython2.1 with Zope 2.4.
Brian Lloyd brian@digicool.com Software Engineer 540.371.6909 Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com
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Will the python you distribute for windows be bare bones (without header files like the current version) ?
I had assumed so, though if someone cares enough to champion the effort, that could be changed. Right now, the windows distribution is really geared toward the crowd that really doesn't know and doesn't care about Python distributions, etc. It is intended to "just work" in a way that doesn't require the user to know anything and that doesn't interfere with any other Python things that may or may not be on their system. The downside, of course, is that we currently don't have an easy way (at least not as easy as the no-brainer dist) for people who do know and do care about Python installations to set things up to work with their current Python. I'd be happy to support someone in the effort of fixing this, though I can't commit to getting it done myself. Someone with enough knowledge about how Python windows installs work and a rudimentary knowledge of WISE should be able to work it out so that the win32 distribution is willing to let you pick which Python to use if it sniffs one (or more) out on the target system. Brian Lloyd brian@digicool.com Software Engineer 540.371.6909 Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com
Right now, the windows distribution is really geared toward the crowd that really doesn't know and doesn't care about Python distributions, etc. It is intended to "just work" in a way that doesn't require the user to know anything and that doesn't interfere with any other Python things that may or may not be on their system.
True.
I'd be happy to support someone in the effort of fixing this, though I can't commit to getting it done myself. Someone with enough knowledge about how Python windows installs work and a rudimentary knowledge of WISE should be able to work it out so that the win32 distribution is willing to let you pick which Python to use if it sniffs one (or more) out on the target system.
This would be a great solution, but I dont think I can devote any time to it all. Is the WISE installation script available for patching? The hacks I do on windows now to get to read the right python are annoying and I have at least two versions everywhere. I know you're busy so just having 2.x will make me very happy. Cheers. -- Andy McKay.
I'd be happy to support someone in the effort of fixing this, though I can't commit to getting it done myself. Someone with enough knowledge about how Python windows installs work and a rudimentary knowledge of WISE should be able to work it out so that the win32 distribution is willing to let you pick which Python to use if it sniffs one (or more) out on the target system.
This would be a great solution, but I dont think I can devote any time to it all. Is the WISE installation script available for patching?
Yes - if you install the win32 version you should have a 'zope2.wse' in the /bin directory of the installation. That is actually a copy of the WISE script. Brian Lloyd brian@digicool.com Software Engineer 540.371.6909 Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com
Someone with enough knowledge about how Python windows installs work and a rudimentary knowledge of WISE should be able to work it out so that the win32 distribution is willing to let you pick which Python to use if it sniffs one (or more) out on the target system.
What about compiling all the extension modules for the right version of python? --jfarr
Someone with enough knowledge about how Python windows installs work and a rudimentary knowledge of WISE should be able to work it out so that the win32 distribution is willing to let you pick which Python to use if it sniffs one (or more) out on the target system.
What about compiling all the extension modules for the right version of python?
Realistically, we would have to require a certain version of Python be installed in order to use an existing installation. I think the real goal is to make it easier to use your own (correct version) Python install rather than to work magically with any Python that happens to be around. We should also make it easier for win32 to compile the extensions if they want to do something fancier than our installer supports. Brian Lloyd brian@digicool.com Software Engineer 540.371.6909 Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com
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