-----Original Message----- From: Casey Duncan [mailto:cduncan@kaivo.com] Sent: Thursday, 21 June 2001 3:30 AM To: Ken Manheimer Cc: zope-dev@zope.org; Jay, Dylan; Paul Everitt; Jim Fulton Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Fishbowl not problem centered enough

I agree that the fishbowl is beneficial, if for nothing else than a sounding board for the possible directions of Zope. But, like I mentioned before, I think the community needs more involvement directly with the development of its own tools like the fishbowl. I realize there is a risk to DC of loosing some level of direct control, but I suggest that a democratic development approach although less decisive and centralized is superior to a despotism.

I'm not so sure about this idea. Benevolent dictators are always going to be 10 times more efficient than democracy. I just think we need to improve the consultitive process and have some focus on what is really trying to be achieved. I aggree that the changes to Zope have been way to slow but then again Zope is going in 5 directions at once which is not a good idea esp if none of those ways work togeather. Perhaps more transparency of the DC's strategies for where zope is going would be good. Also transparency of the criteria by which we should be evaluating new proposals.