Just trying to join zope.org so I could work on the interfaces Wiki, and discovered there's already someone there by that handle. Was weird, wondering if I've encountered another Mike C. Fletcher, or if I somehow got attached to the site while not looking. Oh well, now I get to choose a secret identity :) . VRMan to the Rescue! __________________________________ Mike C. Fletcher Designer, VR Plumber http://members.home.com/mcfletch