Hi, You may know that as well as doing Cool Things With Zope, we also do stuff with Electronic Lab Notebooks (ELNs) - not using Zope unfortunately, but that's another story. Anyway, we have come up with an Open Source ELN (OS-ELN), which is based on Zope and the CMF. Readers of this forum will not be surprised to know that it didn't take much to turn Zope + CMF into quite a nice little ELN. For the curious, you can download what we have at http://www.opensourceeln.org/ What we're trying to do is make this thing approachable for people who don't know Zope, and indeed are somewhat unfamiliar with installing Open Source stuff on their machines. Our primary target for a more approachable install is Windows users, as we feel Linux users are probably going to be OK with a more manual install. The ideal would be to have single file they double click to install, answer a couple of simple questions in the install process, and then point their browser at their running ELN. Kind of like the existing Zope for Windows binary install... But of course at the moment we have to get them to: - install Zope - get, expand, and install the CMF (which is distributed as a .tgz, rather confounding Windows users) - get our product and expand/install it - then log in as the inituser, create a normal user, log out, log back in, create an ELN, then log out, then access the ELN, and join in the normal CMF fashion What I'd like to do is customise the existing Zope installer to include the CMF and our OS-ELN, and to have an already-setup Data.fs. That would really reduce the amount of work someone had to do to download and start playing with this, and of course once they've had a play they may well decide to invest more time in learning Zope and setting up a proper server for production use. Does anyone have any thoughts as to the desirability of this, and the best way of doing it? (BTW, I've always felt that "products" like Squishdot would really benefit from something like this as well. Maybe when Chris sees how easy this is to do for the OS-ELN.... ;-) Thanks for any help, Simon --------- My opinions are my own, NIP's opinions are theirs ---------- Simon J. Coles Email: simon@nipltd.com New Information Paradigms Work Phone: +44 1344 753703 http://www.nipltd.com/ Work Fax: +44 1344 753742 =============== Life is too precious to take seriously ===============