This Monday, I've built an installer for Windows, based on the Zope-2.10.0-final release which has been published on zope.org two weeks ago. Today, I've got some time to run tests: Tests with failures: c:\build\2\Zope-2.10.0-final\inst\build\lib\python\zope\formlib\form.txt Total: 8304 tests, 1 failures, 4 errors (more info on request). Alas, that release seems to be unusable for my purposes, for various reasons. So I'll have to stay with 2.9.4 or older, for the forseeable future. Somehow, I wonder whether current Zope2 releases get any real world testing before becoming "stable". Did perhaps all testing happen on the Windows side, in the past? ;-) Anyway, anybody interested in getting hold of an almost unused Zope-2.10.0-final-win32.exe? -- // EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 // DD DSN=Zope-2.10.0-final-win32.exe,DISP=(OLD,DELETE)
Wolfgang Strobl wrote:
I'll have to stay with 2.9.4 or older, for the forseeable future. Somehow, I wonder whether current Zope2 releases get any real world testing before becoming "stable". Did perhaps all testing happen on the Windows side, in the past? ;-)
Er, no. You'll likely find that those tests _only_ fail on Windows. cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk
Chris Withers <chris <at> simplistix.co.uk> writes:
Wolfgang Strobl wrote:
I'll have to stay with 2.9.4 or older, for the forseeable future. Somehow, I wonder whether current Zope2 releases get any real world testing before becoming "stable". Did perhaps all testing happen on the Windows side, in the past?
Er, no. You'll likely find that those tests _only_ fail on Windows.
Well, no. I was talking about real world testing, not about those unit tests. -- // EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 // DD DSN=Zope-2.10.0-final-win32.exe,DISP=(OLD,DELETE)
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Wolfgang Strobl wrote:
Chris Withers <chris <at> simplistix.co.uk> writes:
Wolfgang Strobl wrote:
I'll have to stay with 2.9.4 or older, for the forseeable future. Somehow, I wonder whether current Zope2 releases get any real world testing before becoming "stable". Did perhaps all testing happen on the Windows side, in the past? Er, no. You'll likely find that those tests _only_ fail on Windows.
Well, no. I was talking about real world testing, not about those unit tests.
Most of the active Zope developers do *not* run Zope on Windows, which is why there are no Windows binaries for recent Zope versions. We do have plenty of "real world" experience with running Zope on Linux, Mac, and other Unixoid systems. Tres. - -- =================================================================== Tres Seaver +1 202-558-7113 tseaver@palladion.com Palladion Software "Excellence by Design" http://palladion.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFN7k6+gerLs4ltQ4RAutiAJ4y7lhFOJwmDNTlS1eCloMHPcih6gCfWevh mkOJ4C7qDQyAnI068UaSqg4= =yQnK -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 01:43:22PM -0400, Tres Seaver wrote: | Most of the active Zope developers do *not* run Zope on Windows, which | is why there are no Windows binaries for recent Zope versions. We do | have plenty of "real world" experience with running Zope on Linux, Mac, | and other Unixoid systems. That's does *not* mean that *no one* runs Zope on Windows. At Enfold Systems we run several different versions of Zope on Windows on a daily basis. It would be more correct to say that no one runs *in development* versions of Zope on Windows, as opposed to binary builds. That's mainly because one needs MSVC to compile the extensions and few people have access to MSVC and knowledge to do that. And to top it, we have "real world" experience with running Zope on Windows and using several key components of the Windows platform to enhance Zope, like Active Directory, NTLM, IFilter, ADO and a couple more. I really hope to fix this image that Zope is a second/third-class citizen when it comes to Windows. That is certainly not the case these days, but yet it's common to see people making it look like. I guess it's more a matter of 'spreading the word'. -- Sidnei da Silva Enfold Systems http://enfoldsystems.com Fax +1 832 201 8856 Office +1 713 942 2377 Ext 214
--On 19. Oktober 2006 15:03:43 -0300 Sidnei da Silva <sidnei@enfoldsystems.com> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 01:43:22PM -0400, Tres Seaver wrote: | Most of the active Zope developers do *not* run Zope on Windows, which | is why there are no Windows binaries for recent Zope versions. We do | have plenty of "real world" experience with running Zope on Linux, Mac, | and other Unixoid systems.
That's does *not* mean that *no one* runs Zope on Windows. At Enfold Systems we run several different versions of Zope on Windows on a daily basis.
It would be more correct to say that no one runs *in development* versions of Zope on Windows, as opposed to binary builds. That's mainly because one needs MSVC to compile the extensions and few people have access to MSVC and knowledge to do that.
And to top it, we have "real world" experience with running Zope on Windows and using several key components of the Windows platform to enhance Zope, like Active Directory, NTLM, IFilter, ADO and a couple more.
I really hope to fix this image that Zope is a second/third-class citizen when it comes to Windows. That is certainly not the case these days, but yet it's common to see people making it look like.
The company I am mainly working for uses Zope as platform for desktop products. This means every customer has a running Zope server on Windows. We are talking of more 100k client-side installations so there are likely much more Zope users on Windows than on Linux :-) -aj
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