Tom Deprez wrote:
I'm terribly sorry if I annoy somebody here on the list with all my stupid q'ns.
Apologies are nice, but comprehension would be better. There is a separate mailing list (zope@zope.org) for questions and answers about USING Zope. This list (zope-dev@zope.org) is supposed to be for discussing DEVELOPING Zope, i.e., writing and debugging new versions of Zope itself and associated modules. With rare exceptions (like when a newbie stumbles on a serious bug) you should only post here if you already understand how to USE Zope, and you want to help code Zope internals. There are no stupid Zope questions, but there are wrong addresses for posting them.
From: "Tom Neff" <tneff@bigfoot.com>
Tom Deprez wrote:
I'm terribly sorry if I annoy somebody here on the list with all my stupid q'ns.
Apologies are nice, but comprehension would be better. There is a separate mailing list (zope@zope.org) for questions and answers about USING Zope. This list (zope-dev@zope.org) is supposed to be for discussing DEVELOPING Zope, i.e., writing and debugging new versions of Zope itself and associated modules. With rare exceptions (like when a newbie stumbles on a serious bug) you should only post here if you already understand how to USE Zope, and you want to help code Zope internals.
There are no stupid Zope questions, but there are wrong addresses for posting them.
At the moment the topic of this list isn't that focused, and this is not necessarily wrong. Currently, this list discusses Zope internals developement, and the development of Zope products. So, Tom was never off topic. Martijn Pieters | Software Engineer mailto:mj@digicool.com | Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com/ | Creators of Zope http://www.zope.org/ | The Open Source Web Application Server ---------------------------------------------
At the moment the topic of this list isn't that focused, and this is not necessarily wrong. Currently, this list discusses Zope internals developement, and the development of Zope products. So, Tom was never off topic.
That's basically the description I thought I wrote as well. :) However, to the extent that Zope and Zope-dev's boundaries become blurred, i.e., people with ultra-basic questions like "How do you spell DTML?" may post them on Zope, but if someone REALLY REALLY wants an answer they go to Zope-dev because that's where the "smart Zope people" hang out, then you get the kind of situation M. Deprez was describing, where an answerable Zope question gets asked on Zope and completely ignored. Maybe the moral of the story is that we should all commit to reading Zope as well as Zope-dev, rather than just glancing at each truckload and saying "hmph, more arguments about Apache, yawn" and turning to Zope-dev for the really interesting stuff. And we should encourage members to use MEANINGFUL Zubjects that actually summarize what a question is about, so we're not tempted to skim past Re: Zope question?? ??? Re: Re: Zope question?? ??? another thing Re: Zope etcetera, only to have someone tell us later "Well I asked and asked but I never got an answer!"
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