Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 4.0, maybe not such a bad idea...
Gary Poster wrote:
Within the constraints above, then, in line with your original proposal, I think we'd be fine with "Zope Framework," and "Zope 2." We certainly don't need Zope-3-the-tarball, if that's what you meant.
Zope Framework (and maybe even ZF4) seems to have general agreement. "Zope 2" can't stay as is, because people stick in in the chain of: Zope 1, Zope 2, Zope 3, Zope Framework 4 ...so there will be confusion. "Zope Standard 4.0" is my current choice, on the basis that I've not heard any complaints against it yet and I know Andreas hates Zope Classic ;-)
As a related aside, I personally think that Plone should be featured here.
Indeed. ZF4 as the base for ZS, Plone, Grok and Repoze works for me :-) Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk
Chris Withers wrote:
Gary Poster wrote:
Within the constraints above, then, in line with your original proposal, I think we'd be fine with "Zope Framework," and "Zope 2." We certainly don't need Zope-3-the-tarball, if that's what you meant.
Zope Framework (and maybe even ZF4) seems to have general agreement.
"Zope 2" can't stay as is, because people stick in in the chain of: Zope 1, Zope 2, Zope 3, Zope Framework 4 ...so there will be confusion.
This isn't a chain. Zope Framework is not Zope the app server. It's a collection of libraries used by Zope 2 and Zope 3. Regards, Martijn
Martijn Faassen wrote:
Chris Withers wrote:
Gary Poster wrote:
Within the constraints above, then, in line with your original proposal, I think we'd be fine with "Zope Framework," and "Zope 2." We certainly don't need Zope-3-the-tarball, if that's what you meant. Zope Framework (and maybe even ZF4) seems to have general agreement.
"Zope 2" can't stay as is, because people stick in in the chain of: Zope 1, Zope 2, Zope 3, Zope Framework 4 ...so there will be confusion.
This isn't a chain.
*we* know that, but any sane human being wondering past won't.
Zope Framework is not Zope the app server. It's a collection of libraries used by Zope 2 and Zope 3.
See comment above ;-) Everyone seems in agreement that "Zope Framework" is fine, and 4.0 would be a good idea as a version number to make that official and clear. I'd like to see a list of possible names for "Zope 2" and "Zope 3" collected (I'm happy to do this) and put to a vote of the foundation membership *soon* and then we can get on with actually using the new names once you (as currently leader of the Zope world ;-) ) have made an announcement. cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk
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