One thing I'd like to see in METAL/TAL is to have it always expand macros when an FTP get is performed. I'm using HTML-KIT now to do almost all of my Zope work, and it's wonderful (too bad its only FTP based, not WebDav). Anyway, if the macros where always expanded I'd be thrilled. Just a wish for the next release Brad Clements, bkc@murkworks.com (315)268-1000 http://www.murkworks.com (315)268-9812 Fax netmeeting: ils://ils.murkworks.com AOL-IM: BKClements