There is a discussion going on on zope-announce. That is not the intent of that list. Discussion should happen on the dev lists. Whoever is approving these messages, please *stop* doing so. Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:jim at zope.com Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714 http://www.python.org Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com http://www.zope.org