[ZF] Foundation goals survey

[Andreas Jung]

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I am not allowed to give feedback over whatever kind?
The only right to exist for Zope is Plone. The only question
is how deal with the legacy in a reasonable way and how to
spend the money of the ZF in a reasonable way.

Andreas

Roger Ineichen wrote:
> Hi Andreas
> 
> I never understood your motiviation about your negative comments if
> someone likes to improve something or make progress in a good
> direction with zope.
> 
> Can you explain the motivation behind your reaction?
> 
> Regards Roger Ineichen
> 
> 
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: foundation
>> [mailto:foundation-bounces at zope.org] Im Auftrag von
> Andreas Jung
>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2014 13:42 An: Godefroid Chapelle 
>> Cc: Zope Foundation Betreff: Re: [ZF] Foundation goals survey
>> 
>> Hi there,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 2014/1/21 Godefroid Chapelle <gotcha at bubblenet.be>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 1) fund specific critical development efforts
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Zope and its components are mature and devel. almost dead - it's
>> legacy. Zero need to invest into a dead cow.
>> 
>> 
>> 2) fund targeted Zope sprints
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Zope sprint will only attract the "old" Zope faces...this won't
>> work out
> much.
>> 
>> 3) fund a Zope Conference, either standalone or with another
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> see above
>> 
>> 
>> 4) fund the creation of documentation showing Zope's capabilities
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> we failed a decade doing this- the time of Zope is over - waste of
>> time...
>> 
>> 
>> 5) encourage further porting of Zope onto Python 3
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> +1 - this is likely needed in the long term from the Plone
>> community if
> they want to
>> move to Python 3.
>> 
>> 
>> 6) cleanup and organize a Zope Consultant/Training resource
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> For a legacy technology?
>> 
>> 
>> 7) commission and maintain a roster of Zope usergroups
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The age of Zope user groups is dead - Python user groups
>> yeah....but who would go to a Zope user group meeting? Yawn....I
>> tried to revive a
> local
>> Zope user group some years ago...mission failed.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 8) some kind of joint/merged effort with the Plone Foundation
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> That's a possible idea.
>> 
>> Sorry for my harsh but realistic views on the Zope world :-)
>> 
>> Andreas
> 
> 

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