[Grok-dev] Re: Putting some effort where my mouth is...

[Martin Aspeli]

Sebastian Ware wrote:
> Hi all!
> 
> I know... the name/identity/image discussion is a bit abstract. I  
> have created a mock-up of what I mean. I really do think this is  
> important. :)

Welcome to the Grok project. :)

> Also, I don't want to ditch the caveman, during the work with the  
> mock-up I kind of liked the idea of him. I just want to put another  
> emphasis on his role. I think the whole "stone-age theme" on  
> tutorials and sample apps is excellent. It's a great twist and keeps  
> it simple.
> 
> Here is a link to the mockup:
> 
> http://www.urbantalk.se/DEVELOPER/grok/index_html

I like it! It feels more professional in style and layout than the 
current one, which is admittedly basic.

I'm not sure the colours or logo placement are right. It also feels 
quite "long", lots of vertical scrolling.

Some of the messages on there are good, though.

"Grok is also the guy who gets seriously aggravated by having to perform 
mundane repetitive tasks that could easily be solved automagically by 
the framework itself."

I'm not sure on the exact phrasing, but the message is interesting.

"Whenever you see the caveman, we've tried to make something a lot 
easier... so that you won't have to feel like a caveman anymore!"

That makes the caveman thing a negative, though, and contradicts the 
previous sentence. I think we may be dwelling on this a bit too much, 
though.

Personally, putting myself in the shoes of an evaluator, I'd like 
something which retains the easy style and honest of the current text, 
and brings the logo more centrally. I'd like to have a nice, cool 
caveman like Fred Flintstone. :)

However, I'd like more emphasis on the key messages, such as bulleted 
lists of "why Grok" that emphasise the Zope connection, Hello World on 
the front page, a list of good/recommendable example apps and so on.

Martin