[Grok-dev] Re: KSS lag?

daniel daniel.carraher at gmail.com
Sat Jan 12 16:47:21 EST 2008


Hey Paul,
Thanks but the load times are the same independent of browser or firebug.
I've tested with IE, epiphany and konqueror as well.

On Jan 12, 2008 3:44 PM, Paul Everitt < paul at zeapartners.org> wrote:

>
> daniel wrote:
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Here are my results on FireFox 3 beta2 with firebug 1.1b10:
> >
> >
> > Console in debug:
> > http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/9189/firefox3b2firebug11b10djd7.jpg
> > <http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/9189/firefox3b2firebug11b10djd7.jpg
> >
> >
> > Notice the two errors in the console.
> >
> > Loadtimes in devel:
> > http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6781/firefox3b2firebug11b10dgg2.jpg
> > <http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6781/firefox3b2firebug11b10dgg2.jpg>
> >
> > Loadtimes in production:
> > http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8510/firefox3b2firebug11b10pcz0.jpg
> >
> >
> > Notice the big problem seems to be base2-dom-fp.js which takes over half
> > a second to load. How many of these files are required?
>
> Don't know if this helps or not:
>
>   http://dean.edwards.name/weblog/2007/08/firebug-slow/
>
> --Paul
>
> > I'm not sure why it took 88ms to load a 4k static CSS file either. Or
> > 65ms for the 80byte file.
> > These numbers represent with everything cached they varied between 1.1
> > and 1.4 seconds for the page load.
> > Maybe I'm being too picky and 1.4 second load times are acceptable fully
> > cached and local? My second Grok app has no CSS or JS and loads in 18ms.
> >
> > Then I tried to reload after clearing my browser's cache with
> > ctr-shift-del and i get 13 second load times!
> >
> > http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/9441/firefox3b2firebug11b10dgm1.jpg
> >
> > This was easily reproducible. kukit.js is the culprit every time and
> > takes 12 seconds to get passed to the browser. Also obviously nothing is
>
> > rendered while this occurs and it did not matter if KSS was in devel or
> > production.
> >
> >
> > On Jan 11, 2008 4:15 AM, Sebastian Ware <sebastian at urbantalk.se
> > <mailto:sebastian at urbantalk.se>> wrote:
> >
> >     Try this
> >
> >       http://www.getfirebug.com/
> >
> >     Mvh Sebastian
> >
> >     11 jan 2008 kl. 03.07 skrev daniel:
> >
> >      > Thanks Godefroid.
> >      > I've put it into dev mode and it 'seems' to have become better. I
>
> >      > have difficulty saying for sure what the change is because I'm
> not
> >      > well versed in how to more adequately measure Grok webapp
> execution
> >      > and client rendering time. Is there someone who could write a
> nice
> >      > documentation for this pretty please with sugar on top? :)
> >      >
> >      > On Jan 10, 2008 5:18 AM, Godefroid Chapelle < gotcha at bubblenet.be
> >     <mailto:gotcha at bubblenet.be>>
> >      > wrote:
> >      > daniel wrote:
> >      > > Hello,
> >      > > I followed the KSS tutorial and integrated KSS into my Grok
> >      > application.
> >      > > I haven't actually done anything with it other than the one
> line
> >      > text
> >      > > replacement that is in the tutorial, however I have started
> >      > experiencing
> >      > > 1-2 second view refresh lag times on my Grok app with KSS as
> >      > opposed to
> >      > > another Grok app without it. Is this typical?
> >      > >
> >      > > -- Daniel
> >      >
> >      > Hmm, I have the feeling this is a problem we have seen at the
> >      > beginning
> >      > with Plone as well.
> >      >
> >      > IIRC, this is a caching problem, kukit.js gets computed on each
> >      > request
> >      >  because cache headers are missing.
> >      >
> >      > Thanks for mentioning this, I'll look at it at the Snow Sprint
> >      > beginning
> >      > on Sat Jan 19.
> >      >
> >      > In the meanwhile, if you turn dev mode on with the
> >     @@kss-devel-mode/ui
> >      > form, the lagging should disappear.
> >      >
> >      > --
> >      > Godefroid Chapelle (aka __gotcha) http://bubblenet.be
> >      >
> >      >
> >      >
> >      > --
> >      >
> >      > -- Daniel _______________________________________________
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > -- Daniel
> >
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-- Daniel
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