[Grok-dev] Re: The shared hosting story, in print anyone?

[Martijn Faassen]

Tres Seaver wrote:
[snip]
> It isn't that I'm *hostile* to the idea of running Zope-based apps on
> such boxes:  I'm just skeptical.

I agree that this one is tough and it's not likely we can fix this in 
the Zope world in the foreseeable future. At this point I don't think we 
can do better than Rails in the Zope world and we shouldn't give wrong 
impressions.

That said, I think even investigating making this better is useful: it 
may make our life better in some other ways even if we don't reach the 
goal of making shared hosting easier.

I did follow the original Ruby on Rails discussion. I think Ian 
Bicking's observations are useful:

http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/01/12/what-php-deployment-gets-right/

Perhaps there is some potential in having mod_wsgi running isolated ZEO 
client processes and having it kill them off painlessly in case of 
problems. It'll still be less manageable than PHP, where there is no 
long-running application server process to worry about at all, and thus, 
as far as I understand, not much need to kill anything off in case of 
problems.

Regards,

Martijn