[Grok-dev] a PyCon sprint for Grok?
Peter Bengtsson
peter at fry-it.com
Tue Mar 11 18:39:27 EDT 2008
I'm keen. I'm far from an expert but if there's an opportunity I'd
love to try to help.
On 11/03/2008, Brandon Craig Rhodes <brandon at rhodesmill.org> wrote:
> I apologize for how late I am asking this question, but I've been busy
> writing presentations and such. :-)
>
> Where should we fit Grok into the PyCon constellation of sprints next
> week? "Grok" appears nowhere on the Sprint page:
>
> http://us.pycon.org/2008/sprints/projects/
>
> I would love to lead a sprint based on my PyCon presentation, which
> will be on Saturday, and will be about how cool the Zope object
> framework is, and how easy Grok makes it to create and use adapters.
> It is annoying that I'll have to say:
>
> - "Adapters are neat!"
> - "An adapter framework is even better!"
> - "Zope gives you one!"
> - "Grok makes it easy to use!"
> - "And, oh, yeah, you can only grok things if you're willing to wait
> for this big web framework to "import", which will make your shell
> script that uses adapters take several seconds. Oh, well."
>
> I'd love to be able to finish my presentation, instead, with:
>
> - "And if you want to use Grok adapter coolness outside of the web
> framework, then come to my sprint and we'll finish up grokcore
> (is that what it was going to be called?) that splits the
> cool-grokking-abilities of Grok from the expense of importing all
> the machinery behind Views and XML and everything else."
>
> Or something like that. Two other possible alternate topics, if
> splitting out grokcore is too big a job for sprinters, or if PvW still
> wants to implement that on his own instead of having some sprinters
> foul it up, are:
>
> - Looking at ways that zope.interface and zope.component could be
> made to import and run faster. I've noticed that my commands that
> use them take several tenths of a second just to start up, and it
> would be neat to make them leaner so that everyone could use them
> at much less cost.
>
> - Doing the design and a first implementation of that neat adapt()
> method that I proposed, and got grudgingly accepted by Jim Fulton,
> late last year on the Zope mailing list. That could be a really
> cool topic for a sprint, since people wouldn't have to know much
> about Zope, since it would basically just be repackaging existing
> functionality in a much improved interface.
>
> It would be neat if, on the sprint page, Grok's name appeared
> alongside things like Django and Turbogears as a framework that's
> serious enough to deserve its own sprint.
>
> On the other hand, the PyCon web site indicates they really wanted the
> sprints defined by the start of registration - more than a month ago,
> in other words! - so maybe they wouldn't appreciate a late addition?
>
> In which case, if we Grok fans wanted to join an existing sprint, what
> would we join? I note that Tres and Chris are running a WSGI-fication
> sprint for web frameworks; are there any aspects of Grok WSGI-fication
> that are left to be completed?
>
> *Any* guidance you guys can offer me at this point is appreciated!
> This will be my first PyCon and it would be neat if it could benefit
> Grok.
>
>
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