[Grok-dev] buildout 1.5.x and virtualenv: grokproject improvements

[Martijn Faassen]

Hi there,

Right now we have a bug with grokproject and buildout 1.5.x, but that is 
not what I'm talking about here. I'm talking about a future step.

It is my understanding that buildout 1.5.x contains improvements that 
allow isolation from the system site-packages (really great, thanks 
Gary!). This would allow us to safely install Grok without instructing 
people to use virtualenv first.

I think we should move towards releasing a new version of grokproject 
that uses this approach. We should however test first whether this 
doesn't *break* in a virtualenv, otherwise people using the old 
instructions will have difficulties.

The ZTK still has a pin to an older version of buildout. If it's going 
to stick to buildout 1.4.x, we should be able to override this by 
requiring 1.5.x in the grok toolkit.

If everything then works, we should then also go through our published 
installation documentation and remove the virtualenv step. It's really 
awesome we can finally dump that rather redundant step.

Regards,

Martijn