[Grok-dev] bypass UI adding application to grok AND multiple applications under /src howto?

[Christian Schmidt]

Hi there,

We are testing if grok is the solution for us to develop our new user 
interface. We are discussing and testing the grok framework consulting 
the grok tutorial and the book of Carlos de la Guardia - Grok 1.0 Web 
Development.

One of our programmers has the opinion that it would be hard to place it 
under version control - referring 
http://grok.zope.org/documentation/how-to/placing-your-grok-project-under-version-control. 


Problem is - he is thinking - the data.fs ZODB. But, we don't save 
userdata there - all data will be stored with sqlalchemy under postgres. 
So there would be clean rebuild for any new installation if data.fs does 
not exists. But, is there a way to bypass adding the application name 
into the Grok UI? - I have googled that, but found nothing.

The idea is, that we download our application from svn or git, make a
python bootstrap.py and bin/buildout and all works out of the box - on 
every developers local box or production server. - no application name 
UI adding.

Our further goal is to manage different things. We need something like this:

http://EXAMPLE.com/customers/show | edit | etc.
http://EXAMPLE.com/mailadmin/
http://EXAMPLE.com/mailadmin/domains
http://EXAMPLE.com/mailadmin/domains/add
http://EXAMPLE.com/mailadmin/domains/delete
http://EXAMPLE.com/mailadmin/domains/useraccount/add
http://EXAMPLE.com/mailadmin/domains/useraccount/list
http://EXAMPLE.com/mailadmin/domains/useraccount/delete


Do we need to create multiple applications under src/? - what would be 
the right way?

My Idea was:

[localpy] %grokproject myproject
[localpy] %cd myproject/
[localpy] %python bootstrap.py
[localpy] %bin/buildout

creates myproject with the default structure.

[localpy] %ls src/

myproject/src/__init__.py	
myproject/src/app_templates	
myproject/src/resource.py	
myproject/src/tests
myproject/src/app.py
myproject/src/configure.zcml
myproject/src/static


[localpy] %bin/paster serve parts/etc/debug.ini

Starting the Server the UI shows no application:
"Currently no working applications are installed."

To enable the default application "myproject" I have to add the 
application to grok. The only way I know is to add this unter der Server UI.

If I want now create an other application under src. How would I do 
that? I want to have ie:

mailadmin/src/__init__.py	
mailadmin/src/app_templates	
mailadmin/src/resource.py	
mailadmin/src/tests
mailadmin/src/app.py
mailadmin/src/configure.zcml
mailadmin/src/static


My Idea was to copy all files from myproject to mailadmin and change the 
template. Is there a paster - template available for that job? (creating 
a grok sub-application under src)

Adding this mailadmin application to grok whit the UI does not the job, 
because http//127.0.0.1:8080/mailadmin shows the template of 
myproject/app_templates/index.pt not mailadmin/app_templates/index.pt.

How to add mailadmin to the grok application, enable the application so 
my request for http//127.0.0.1:8080/mailadmin shows 
mailadmin/app_templates/index.pt. Do I have to add it to any configfile 
as well?

I found that this should be possible, but not how in detail:

https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/grok-dev/2010-August/010542.html

I hope that i have written all detailed enough an think that many other 
have the same problems in understanding grok and I would be glad, if 
someone helps me to take the first cliffs.

Kind regards

Christian



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