[Gsoc] Project List

[Stephan Richter]

Hi all,

I just checked the project list and I think having 2 Grok projects in the top3 
is a bit excessive. I think Grok serves a part of the Zope 3 community, but 
so much as to warrant 2 projects. I think this is the new kid on the block 
effect.

Further, I would be really disturbed, if Paul does not get one of his proposed 
projects (I really do not care which one). Of all the candidates, Paul has 
the most promise to become a long-term committer and advocat of Zope 3. He is 
also extremely smart, so he can produce very well-thought-out code.

Okay, now that I write a mail to the list I can address some comments on the 
ZCML proposal.

Martijn, I did the measurements last year already (when I applied for the 
project), and I know that converting the XML strings via schemas to Python 
values is about 50% of the startup time. Pickles, on the other hand, are 
quickly read, so I think the overall gain would be about 50%. For example, if 
Zope takes 4 seconds to start now, it would take 2 seconds after the 
improvements. I think that wildly! improves programming comfort. I would have 
never applied or suggested the project if I would have not known the numbers.

As for switching to Python actions for configuration, I think this is worthy 
thinking about. However, I think this particular problem has a wide scope and 
takes a lot of work, more than what I would expect of a student during a GSoC 
project. Also, the method of attack has not been fully thought out, adding to 
the risk. If someone else would commit serious time to help Paul here, not 
only with design but also 

Lennart, I cannot believe you think that improving the startup time is not 
useful. Have you ever done a pure Zope 3 project? ? BTW, this will not only 
speed up the startup time, but functional testing too, so this is an all 
around gain.

Regards,
Stephan
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Stephan Richter
CBU Physics & Chemistry (B.S.) / Tufts Physics (Ph.D. student)
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