[ZDP] ZDP joins Zope-Web

[Maik Roeder]

Hi Paul !

Paul Everitt wrote:
> 
> Karl is more right than he thinks. :^)
> 
> It's not just the Zope Book that is obscure.  There are a ton of really
> good resources and documents that aren't getting visibility.  The ZDP
> has done better than Zope.org on this, but I think they and we could do
> better.

The ZDP has changed focus some time ago to provide links to good resources
instead of writing the resources. So, basically there is noone writing
for the ZDP any more, and I am almost the only one left who uses the ZDP Site 
more or less as a weblog that I use to keep track of stuff I have learned about
Zope. I wish there were more people using the ZDP as a weblog of sorts,
and that's why I want to focus on this aspect, because it is working 
for me.

It would be great if all the stuff that is written for sites like ZopeNewies
and Zope Treasures could be integrated into the ZDP by syndication. 

To do the weblog and syndication stuff, I would like to move the ZDP site
to a new server that allows me ssh access and do stuff that would be impossible
on a CodeIt server. I have been talking to Veikko Wünsche from lightwerk, who
would like to provide a server just for this effort, but he has been asking
whether it would be possible to get the sponsorship from DC like for current
ZDP site.
 
> I spent the past two days assembling links for a customer regarding
> developer-oriented links.  It surprised me how much good stuff is out
> there.

That's right. If you take a look at the ZDP portals, you will see that
I have tried to separate the Zope community into groups of user for
which I provide specialized links to the good information. This section
of the site still needs a lot of content. Maybe we can do someting like
this also for the Zope.org site ?
 
> Here's what I think we should do:
> 
> a. Make the Zope Book prominent on the Zope.org home page.
> Specifically, have a link to it appear after "Zope Tour" under "Learn
> Zope".

ok.
 
> b. Let three of the main ZDP team be local-role owners of
> /Documentation.

There are not many active ZDP people left, but I will post this message 
also to the ZDP mailing list, so anyone who is interested can speak up.
(Kamon, Rik, Tom, ... ?) 

> c. Work together to create really useful, elegant
> /Documentation/index_html pages and subordinate pages.  Do this with (a)
> good HTML, (b) good organization, and (c) editorial value by summarizing
> links before people click.

I'll help on this. Anyone else ?
 
> Ultimately we need to do something more systematic.  I'm proposing
> something that would take under ten hours and wouldn't require new
> software.

It would be easy to use some of the ZDP resources and go from there.
There is some good stuff on the Zope.org site as well, so it should
be no problem to set up something really fast.

> Also, it sends a message that we at DC are on the way to treating the
> ZDP as partners.

I hope many of the old ZDP people will come back and join us with
their ideas after subscribing to the zope-web mailing list. The 
ZDP mailing list is used no more, and so I think maybe it should
be removed ?

Best regards,

Maik Röder

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