A comment to the paragraph below was recently added via http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZDG/current/Acquisition.stx#2-5 --------------- and:: 'c.a.aq_self is a' % Anonymous User - May 25, 2003 12:13 pm: Hmm. Mine isn't doing this. Here's some pasted output: [snip] AttributeError: color >>> c.a.aq_parent is c 1 >>> c.a.aq_self is a 0