>>>>> "THoffman" == <THoffman@indtech.wa.gov.au> writes: THoffman> Maybe that could be an inspectable property of a THoffman> function/method in newer versions of python, at least THoffman> then something like idle with it's arg hints could also THoffman> tell you if the method modifies or returns a copy of the THoffman> object Well, we've got function attributes now, so... make something up! :) -Barry