aargh, sorry about the duplication, i forgot i'd already sent it... the world of email is very "interesting" this week with all the SOBIG crud happening :-\ Ignore this thread, follow up the other one... -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com Look! Up in the sky! It's CHILLIN SHINY CREAM SLIME! (random hero from isometric.spaceninja.com)