Been having some strange behavior with the CMF 1.3, and a couple of things came down to changes in the default metadata set in the catalog. I understand why meta_type is no longer a default (should be using portal_type), but why had 'id' been omitted as well? ~C Carl E. Rendell Solution43 Information Distribution Consulting | "Ahhhh the power of cer@sol43.com | acquisition" - Chef Z