[Zope-CMF] Plone/Metadata/FUD

[seb bacon]

I think the plone team are doing a lot to bring people into the Zope 
fold.  It looks cool and make several usability improvements over 
CMFDefault.  I don't care if you call it a fork or a layer, if more 
people are using Zope/CMF then I'm happier.  I would rather 10,000 more 
people were using 20 forks of the CMF, rather than 100 people were using 
a single CMF implementation.  Let's get people on board; let's worry 
about the other stuff once we have sufficient momentum from a large 
enough community.  And this from someone who doesn't even use plone :^)

> A recently-recommended book says "[m]ost conflicts are based in 
> differing interpretations of the facts."  We should step back from heavy 
> artillery and find out how the situation can be improved for all our 
> viewpoints.

One observation I draw from this discussion is that we should have some 
kind of conceptual / infrastructural framework for differentiating 
between Implementations (CMFDefault / Plone) and Framework (CMFCore).

Ever since the CMF began, most people consistently (and understandably) 
don't get the relationship  between Core and Default.

In the future, I would like to see CMF releases available in 2 (or more) 
*separate* parts:

1) Download the CMF (actually just CMFCore)
2) Download an implementation (currently a choice of CMFDefault, Plone, 
mmmanager...)

This approach has the advantages of keeping the conceptual break clean, 
and also possibly encouraging people to think outside the CMFDefault box 
a bit more.  There are more types of website than the member-centric 
document-centric portal...

seb