[Zope-CMF] CMFPortlets (was Re: [Zope] Re: plone "vs." CMF was ... uPortal??)

[Andy McKay]

Nice, couldnt spot a link to the code though, is that around somewhere?
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  Andy McKay
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Subject: [Zope-CMF] CMFPortlets (was Re: [Zope] Re: plone "vs." CMF was ...
uPortal??)


> I started to write a skin to handle portlets (or channels) a while ago.
> After this thead I decided to show a preview. It still needs more work to
> become a product, although there's a couple of screenshots and a demo (no
> released files yet). Any feedback is welcomed:
>
> http://www.zope.org/Members/ausum/CMFPortlets/Preview
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> Ausum
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Browning" <paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk>
> To: "zope" <zope@zope.org>
> Cc: "Andy McKay" <andy@agmweb.ca>
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 1:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [Zope] Re: plone "vs." CMF was ... uPortal??
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>
> >
> >
> > --On 29 September 2002 08:09 -0700 Andy McKay <andy@agmweb.ca> wrote:
> >
> > >> Quite. I don't know much/enough about the CMF but I'm sure this
> > >> is all do-able. But if uPortal have already invented that wheel ....
> > >
> > > This is somewhere in the list of things to do (i've already done it as
a
> > > prototype at aspn.activestate.com), I've never thought it that useful
or
> > > used it myself on sites that do serve it. Do you think its that
useful?
> >
> > Well if "it" is the channel/portlet concept as expressed by
uPortal/Oracle
> > Portal then, yes, I think it's essential. See Dario's helpful post
> > on why he finds the channel concept attractive.
> >
> > If Zope +/- CMF had this now then it might be more competitive in
> > the portal framework space. Funny that the CMF started life as
> > the PTK .....
> >
> > Please don't think I'm jettisoning the CMF as it stands as a portal
> > framework. I think we're starting to understand that there are
> > portals and portals.
> >
> > The CMF may be perfect for building a portal for a community or
> > small organisation that has no legacy of back-end information
> > systems. This sort of portal will host alot of content.
> >
> > But, as the recent META Group report
> > <http://www.zopezen.org/Members/Ausum/1033036454>
> > notes, for larger organisations the focus is now on "employee
> > portals" (for universities read "students and staff") as
> > they try to evolve from the "intranet stage" of their IT
> > evolution. In "employee portals" all the content may be
> > elsewhere - back-end information systems - and so the
> > focus is on semaless integration and application delivery.
> >
> > This is where you want the channels; to aggregate (and skin)
> > remote and heterogeneous applications. The portal framework
> > also ideally gives the illusion of single-sign on (various trust
> > relationships being set up between systems).
> >
> > To build such a portal framework seems a non-trivial
> > task. Which is why I'm inclined to say "ok, so uPortal
> > have done it, it's open source too, it's very
> > standards centric, so let's run with that".
> >
> > As Dario notes, as well as its content management strengths,
> > Zope seems perfect for building smaller applications quickly,
> > and so perhaps we should be looking to plug these in to an
> > overarching (Java-based) portal framework as channels.
> >
> > I've done this a proof of concept (using a Zope-hosted
> > RSS app) which I then pointed at uPortal (RSS is one
> > the channels that comes out of the box). But we need
> > to extend this to apps that require authentication and
> > session information to passed back and forth (and
> > stored). Which is why I'm trawling for potential
> > collaborators on this!
> >
> > Thanks for reading this far,
> >
> > Paul
> >
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> >    E-mail: paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk  URL: http://www.bris.ac.uk/
> >
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