[Zope-CMF] CMFPortlets (was Re: [Zope] Re: plone "vs." CMF was ... uPortal??)

[chris]

well, uPortal it's not, but for a tiny channel product just skinning a 
Topic does it for me; for example:
http://alt.wadham.ox.ac.uk

Best regards,
Chris.


robert wrote:

> Fine!
> Next week we start with two projects, wher I would love to have your 
> skins to start with.
> So if you can have any help: I would be eager!
>
> Robert
>
> Ausum Studio wrote:
>
>> No, it's not. Yet. :) I want to add a couple of things before 
>> releasing it,
>> and that includes to write comments in the code, and general 
>> guidelines for
>> its development by the community. A matter of two or three weeks.
>>
>>
>> Ausum
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Andy McKay" <andy@agmweb.ca>
>> To: "Ausum Studio" <ausum_studio@hotmail.com>; <zope-cmf@zope.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 7:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Zope-CMF] CMFPortlets (was Re: [Zope] Re: plone "vs." 
>> CMF was
>> ... uPortal??)
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>>> Nice, couldnt spot a link to the code though, is that around somewhere?
>>> --
>>>  Andy McKay
>>>  www.agmweb.ca
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ausum Studio" <ausum_studio@hotmail.com>
>>> To: <zope-cmf@zope.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 4:43 PM
>>> Subject: [Zope-CMF] CMFPortlets (was Re: [Zope] Re: plone "vs." CMF was
>>>   
>>
>> ...
>>  
>>
>>> uPortal??)
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>> I started to write a skin to handle portlets (or channels) a while ago.
>>>> After this thead I decided to show a preview. It still needs more work
>>>>     
>>>
>> to
>>  
>>
>>>> become a product, although there's a couple of screenshots and a demo
>>>>     
>>>
>> (no
>>  
>>
>>>> released files yet). Any feedback is welcomed:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.zope.org/Members/ausum/CMFPortlets/Preview
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ausum
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Paul Browning" <paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk>
>>>> To: "zope" <zope@zope.org>
>>>> Cc: "Andy McKay" <andy@agmweb.ca>
>>>> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 1:26 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Zope] Re: plone "vs." CMF was ... uPortal??
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>> --On 29 September 2002 08:09 -0700 Andy McKay <andy@agmweb.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Quite. I don't know much/enough about the CMF but I'm sure this
>>>>>>> is all do-able. But if uPortal have already invented that wheel
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>
>> ....
>>  
>>
>>>>>> This is somewhere in the list of things to do (i've already done it
>>>>>>         
>>>>>
>> as
>>  
>>
>>> a
>>>   
>>>
>>>>>> prototype at aspn.activestate.com), I've never thought it that
>>>>>>         
>>>>>
>> useful
>>  
>>
>>> or
>>>   
>>>
>>>>>> used it myself on sites that do serve it. Do you think its that
>>>>>>         
>>>>>
>>> useful?
>>>   
>>>
>>>>> Well if "it" is the channel/portlet concept as expressed by
>>>>>       
>>>>
>>> uPortal/Oracle
>>>   
>>>
>>>>> Portal then, yes, I think it's essential. See Dario's helpful post
>>>>> on why he finds the channel concept attractive.
>>>>>
>>>>> If Zope +/- CMF had this now then it might be more competitive in
>>>>> the portal framework space. Funny that the CMF started life as
>>>>> the PTK .....
>>>>>
>>>>> Please don't think I'm jettisoning the CMF as it stands as a portal
>>>>> framework. I think we're starting to understand that there are
>>>>> portals and portals.
>>>>>
>>>>> The CMF may be perfect for building a portal for a community or
>>>>> small organisation that has no legacy of back-end information
>>>>> systems. This sort of portal will host alot of content.
>>>>>
>>>>> But, as the recent META Group report
>>>>> <http://www.zopezen.org/Members/Ausum/1033036454>
>>>>> notes, for larger organisations the focus is now on "employee
>>>>> portals" (for universities read "students and staff") as
>>>>> they try to evolve from the "intranet stage" of their IT
>>>>> evolution. In "employee portals" all the content may be
>>>>> elsewhere - back-end information systems - and so the
>>>>> focus is on semaless integration and application delivery.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is where you want the channels; to aggregate (and skin)
>>>>> remote and heterogeneous applications. The portal framework
>>>>> also ideally gives the illusion of single-sign on (various trust
>>>>> relationships being set up between systems).
>>>>>
>>>>> To build such a portal framework seems a non-trivial
>>>>> task. Which is why I'm inclined to say "ok, so uPortal
>>>>> have done it, it's open source too, it's very
>>>>> standards centric, so let's run with that".
>>>>>
>>>>> As Dario notes, as well as its content management strengths,
>>>>> Zope seems perfect for building smaller applications quickly,
>>>>> and so perhaps we should be looking to plug these in to an
>>>>> overarching (Java-based) portal framework as channels.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've done this a proof of concept (using a Zope-hosted
>>>>> RSS app) which I then pointed at uPortal (RSS is one
>>>>> the channels that comes out of the box). But we need
>>>>> to extend this to apps that require authentication and
>>>>> session information to passed back and forth (and
>>>>> stored). Which is why I'm trawling for potential
>>>>> collaborators on this!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for reading this far,
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> The Library, Tyndall Avenue, Univ. of Bristol, Bristol, BS8 1TJ, UK
>>>>>   E-mail: paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk  URL: http://www.bris.ac.uk/
>>>>>
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