[Zope-CMF] Re: Proposal for hooking rendering

Paul Everitt paul at zope-europe.org
Thu Dec 1 05:02:50 EST 2005


Seb Bacon wrote:
> On 11/30/05, Paul Everitt <paul at zope-europe.org> wrote:
>> Still, I'm hoping that my small, 3-line proposal doesn't get changed
>> into a "let's replace templating systems" discussion. :^)  I'm trying to
>> find the smallest necessary part to cover the maximum interest.
>>
>> Again to the CMF community: independent of this proposed solution, is
>> this corporate ID a problem worth supporting investigation?
> 
> Personally I am very much in favour of a small change that makes it
> more likely that people will experiment with using XSLT or any other
> system they like.
> 
> On the other hand, in our work the design part of the process never
> fits into a workflow like this.  We don't ever need to apply a global
> theme to a core set of templates; rather, the design of entire
> templates and layouts changes between clients.  So FWIW the specific
> problem as expressed isn't one we need to solve.

Right, but I think parts of the motivation are similar.  You need a new 
look-and-feel for each client.  The person doing that look-and-feel 
(perhaps the client, if they already have a look-and-feel) need their 
work to be part of the processing.

Does this happen by:

1) Asking them and the site scripters to share the same artifact? 
(Perhaps in your case the two roles conflate into the same person.)

2) Segregating the site scripting into one part and the look-and-feel 
into another part.

> In short, I strongly agree with every one of your numbered list items
> except "1) Don't make corporate ID people learn anything new" - I'm
> not sure I have ever met any corporate ID people.  But perhaps that's
> just us.

The motivation I described comes from a fair number of CMS consulting 
deployments in a different business model than yours, so that's possible.

--Paul



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