[Zope-CMF] Re: Zope 3 events from workflow

[Jens Vagelpohl]

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On 27 Dec 2006, at 16:16, Tres Seaver wrote:
> Rocky Burt wrote:
>> On Wed, 2006-27-12 at 11:46 +0100, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
>>> P.S.: I _hate hate hate_ doctests ;)
>>
>> Why?
>
> I won't speak for Jens, but I find they have two serious drawbacks  
> when
> used as *unit tests* (as opposted to quasi-functional tests with  
> narrative):
>
>   - Tests dont run in isolation from one another (this is why I say
>     quasi-functional).
>
>   - The contortions required to get testable output printed often
>     obscure the intent of the test itself.

 From painful experience with the customer work right now, and from  
the work on the CMF branch to convert tools to utilities I'll add  
that they make debugging a lot harder (where can I step into and  
through the test code with pdb as I normally do?) and the fact that  
they don't just stop executing when an error is encountered like a  
normal unit test does. They continue, usually spewing miles and miles  
of text, and it's really annoying to scroll back screen after screen  
after screen to find the real problem.

jens


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