[Zope-CMF] Re: Some first steps with CMF2

[David Pratt]

Hi Yuppie.  Many thanks for this help. Yikes with the profiles. Not sure 
which way I will go. I'll wait for Rocky on 2.9 pythonproducts which 
will hopefull be shortly. I was hoping the Z3ECM CPSSkins could be used 
with CMF Default so that views could be integrated into something good 
and new. CPSSkins is ZPL. I guess formlib will be a bit so I should not 
be so anxious. It all takes time. :-)

Regards,
David

yuppie wrote:
> Hi David!
> 
> 
> David Pratt wrote:
> 
>> My first question has to do with GenericSetup. I have portals that 
>> require the adding of a variety of tools etc. So first off how/where 
>> do I create my site configuration so that I can create clones with my 
>> own configuration instead of default?
> 
> 
> In general it should be easier to customize a site and create the 
> profile by exporting the site configuration compared to customizing the 
> XML files directly.
> 
> A tarball import function is still missing, so the easiest way to use 
> your own profiles is creating a small product that registers your profile.
> 
> There are two possible strategies for creating your profiles:
> 
> 1.) Create your own base profile(s)
> 
> pro: This is an automated process because exports are always base profiles.
> 
> con: You create a lot of redundant configuration data that will become 
> hard to maintain if the default profiles are changed or you need many 
> similar configurations.
> 
> 2.) Create your own extension profile(s)
> 
> pro: It just represents the difference to the base profile and other 
> extension profiles. Keeping track of changes in those profiles is an 
> automated process.
> 
> con: While a diff helps you to identify changes between two profiles 
> creating an extension profile is manual work.
> 
>> Second, does CMF now support products as a package instead? If so 
>> where are the packages to be located for CMF and is there some sort of 
>> code somewhere that would exemplify an approach for moving my own 
>> products forward.
> 
> 
> It is not officially supported but it might work with the latest Five / 
> pythonproducts code. I haven't tried it so far.
> 
>> I see that five views are now available for default types. This is 
>> very exciting. How would one deal with the main portal template?
> 
> 
> The main_template is one of the oldest parts of the CMFDefault skin. I 
> guess it needs a major refactoring if we port it to five views. For now 
> you customize it the old way or make your own experiments.
> 
>> Last question has to do with formlib. Does this integration exist in 
>> CMF2 currently?
> 
> 
> CMF doesn't integrate Zope 3 features faster than Five. CMF 2.0 just 
> requires Zope 2.9 (Five 1.3) which has no formlib support. Maybe CMF 2.1 
> will use formlib and maybe you can already do useful things with the 
> latest Five code and formlib in CMF 2.0.
> 
>> Sorry for so many questions but I am really pumped about the changes 
>> and I am anxious to begin moving things over.
> 
> 
> You are welcome!
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
>     Yuppie
>