[Zope-CMF] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Known working sets II [was:
Eggification redux]
Dieter Maurer
dieter at handshake.de
Wed Sep 26 13:37:10 EDT 2007
Martijn Faassen wrote at 2007-9-25 19:57 +0200:
> ...
>If you choose for flexibility first, people will need to think about
>versions all the time.
I follow Tres argumentation: somehow the Linux distributors
have this problem mostly solved:
Standard distributions come with a set of known working components
and quite weak dependancy declarations.
When I install additional components, I will be told about
potential conflicts (based on the weak dependancies) and
asked what to do (install nevertheless, upgrade more things to
get dependancies right or abort).
Usually, I do not have to worry about versions -- only
occationally (when I see conflict lists) or even more rarely,
when something breaks even though there has not been a conflict.
We currently made bad experiences with weak dependancies.
I see several reasons for this:
* not yet ready distributions (insufficiently tested,
alpha quality) have been uploaded to PyPI
We are now aware that we must not do things like this
* installation tools have prefered newer versions over
older ones, even when the newer versions were development/alpha
while the older ones have been stable
The tools meanwhile have changed and stick preferably to
stable versions
* The installation tools work incrementally with dependancies
rather than based on a global dependancy graph.
This is not yet changed.
Maybe, our bad experience are drastically reduced when the above
reasons are taken care of -- even with weak dependancies?
--
Dieter
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