[Zope-CMF] Re: Add forms and menus

[yuppie]

Hi!


Martin Aspeli wrote:
> Charlie Clark wrote:
>> Am 13.07.2008 um 20:21 schrieb Martin Aspeli:
>>> Thus, if CMF hasn't yet picked a form library in a release, then you  
>>> could try to learn from Plone's mistakes and not jump on a sinking  
>>> ship. :)

CMF 2.1 was released with some formlib based edit forms. I don't think 
it was a mistake, because at that time z3c.form wasn't available in the 
Zope 2 world.

>> We're already using zope.formlib in the "experimental browser views"  
>> edit forms. The reference to a sinking ship is totally off-target. My  
>> own view is that sometimes it is better to wait for version 2 of a  
>> product or library to be released before adoption. Surely Plone has  
>> suffered from adopting some stuff too early?
> 
> *shrug*
> 
> Do what you please. I'm not particularly wedded to one or the other. But 
> having used both, I'm pretty sure that z3c.form is a better library. In 
> many ways, z3c.form *is* version 2 of formlib.

Exactly. z3c.form is a new version of zope.formlib that doesn't care 
about backwards compatibility. All development is done in z3c.form. 
Using the picture of a sinking ship: At least the crew has already 
abandoned the formlib ship. And without crew it will sink sooner or later.

It was always a goal of CMF to minimize dependencies. But Zope became 
less monolithic, so we have to define the Zope dependency ourselves. 
It's no longer just the Zope 2 distribution, we have to use separately 
shipped packages like five.localsitemanager as well. And z3c.form is 
*the* current Zope package for creating forms.


Cheers,

	Yuppie